Again, Relic Nexus will have barely no use...

[Pr0c3ss0r]

I don't really care to do the math on this so I'll take your word for it but what I will say is your 3.5 hour limit you put on my groups farming the turn is completely wrong. You are ignoring the amount of time we put into it just to get the first down. You said it yourself that raiders are "grinding wipes." I'm not saying you don't have a right to feel like you put in a ton of work for a weapon that became not the best weapon anymore, what I'm saying is it isn't getting thrown to the side. The exact same thing that happened to Nexus, happened to the High Allagan. You start the grind all over again. Two different paths that result in a somewhat identical weapon. You get to choose which path you take. Having a relic on standby means that my group doesn't have to feed me weapons. They don't have to baby me and hold my hand. I can get a weapon all on my own AND I don't have to pray to RNGeezus. I'll take my relic and if in the meantime I can nab a Dreadwyrm Staff, I will.

I do agree on that, is why i am asking an equal weapon power, or close to it. Don't have to be the BiS, but at lease something we can work along the new content. (This say, i have grinded the wipe of T9 as much as you) My raid still do T9 bc BRD bow refuse to drop. (It just add up on top of my nexus)

[Clarkamite]

I do agree on that, is why i am asking an equal weapon power, or close to it. Don't have to be the BiS, but at lease something we can work along the new content.

I think what SE is doing is making it so that raid content is relevant. When they release new raid content (i.e. Final Coil of Bahamut) they would not want to release an update on the relic quest at the same time. It would make doing the new raid completely irrelevant outside of the story and the few people who would do it anyways just for the challenge. Sure this screws over the "casual" crowd for a few months but I feel like they do release a decent amount of content to keep people busy in the meantime. I mean, hell, I just spent this entire new patch leveling Ninja. I've done nothing else besides: down t10, unlock expert roulette and get my NIN to 49. I'm looking forward to doing the rest of the content. Not all of it HAS to be about upgrading my current gear.

[Asierid]

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The Relic is relevant for a certain period of the patch. It was one of the better (And easier to get compared to RNG in Coil) weapons back in 2.0 up to 2.4, it was BiS before 2.4 when Nexus was released. It still will be the easier weapon to manage once it gets upgrades to 120-130ish because, unlike Coil RNG, you get the weapon regardless of how you do the questline. You are failing to see that there are people that still didn't see their Coil weapon drop last tier, what makes you think this is any different?

It is a grind? Yes. But you get what you grind regardless, there is no failing ( and you even get customized stats through materia that you choose). You can "wipe" Coil all you want and still not get the weapon (Wiping implies that you lose, BTW. Poor word choice there). People got Nexus within the first couple of days of the patch dropping, I find it hard to believe that will change unless another Atma chance is used. (Even still, people got Atma right away)