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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    pure dps classes like summoner get physick and a trait to improve the spell and black mages that shouldn't even have the ability to heal are capable of healing much better than a paladin due to their magical attributes, so I think Paladins should get some reliable unique cures that would mostly be to assist with their tanking.
    1) SMN gets it only because SE had the brilliant idea to share the base class of a DPS class with a healer class. And SMN heals 400ish only at 50. Which is nothing.
    2) What magical attributes? BLM has no mind at all, they heal even less than a SMN. Which is also nothing. Just to make it clear for you, intelligence, the primary stat of black mage, doesn't affect heals. Mind does. And black mages don't have mind stats at 50 gear. And in case you mean below lv50, this whole thread is pointless. Comparing other classes "capable" of healing. And BLM heals the same as a PLD.
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    Last edited by Edeline; 11-06-2014 at 08:54 AM.

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    Player Kerwin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edeline View Post
    And black mages don't have mind stats at 50 gear. And in case you mean below lv50, this whole thread is pointless.
    I don't think you read the OP. This is regarding Paladins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerwin View Post
    I don't think you read the OP. This is regarding Paladins.
    I will let you read the bold part of the quote on my previous post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edeline View Post
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    THM trait - Magick and Mend II - Increases base action damage and HP restoration by 30% and allows for the stacking of a third Astral Fire or Umbral Ice.

    ACN trait - Maim and Mend II - Increases base action damage and HP restoration by 30%.

    And BLM/SMN have higher magic damage than PLD (obviously) so their heal will naturally be higher.

    So you have an actual healer healing for over 1k, caster DPS healing for ~400 hp and PLD healing for 200-250 HP.
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    Vaire Oran
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    Scholar Lv 70
    More useful white magic of any sort would be welcome. I started out as a paladin but was a little disappointed that the job ends up feeling more like a royal guard than a paladin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheele View Post
    We do NOT have "Paladins" under the MMO definition in this game. We have Knights, or royal guards who protect guard the Sultana.
    In most MMO's a "Paladin" in lore is a person who belongs to a church/religion, and who's very existence is to purge the darkness in the world.
    XI - Paladin belongs to the church in San'd O.., and is given strength to fight un-dead.
    WoW - Paladin belongs to the church again, and is fighting against the un-dead.
    Both are blessed, have magic, use "holy" arts, healing ability, heavy armor/shields, playing a PLD in both games gave a very unique identity.

    XIV - we have a knight who might as well have been a squire under a PLD, learned a skill or 2 and became a sell sword.
    Read this post after I had already posted. You hit the nail on the head I really don't like the lore behind the job either. I play WHM now but would have liked a more holy paladin.
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    Last edited by Karke; 11-06-2014 at 01:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    THM trait - Magick and Mend II - Increases base action damage and HP restoration by 30% and allows for the stacking of a third Astral Fire or Umbral Ice.

    ACN trait - Maim and Mend II - Increases base action damage and HP restoration by 30%.

    And BLM/SMN have higher magic damage than PLD (obviously) so their heal will naturally be higher.

    So you have an actual healer healing for over 1k, caster DPS healing for ~400 hp and PLD healing for 200-250 HP.
    And you realize that a difference in 200 healing point is useless when both are really low, right? and mages are squishy unlike paladins. And still, it's useless trying to heal even with those 30% traits.
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