Dragoons feeling left out?

[Morningstar1337]

I would say that if you have Bards in your party take DRG if not take NIN.

Why not both? (in 8-man content)?

[RedAntares]

Why not both? (in 8-man content)?

That would the perfect setup I think, add a Monk and you have mantras too.

[Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri]

you...are...PATHETIC and you are encouraging loldrg when you really cant learn that is one of the useful Dragoon to help in dmg!!

Hmm. Dot is useless. ok lets delete SUMMONER!!!

He has a point though. 1.0's chaos thrust is leaps and bounds better than ARR's

[JayCommon]

I think people have 'lolDrg' ingrained into their brains at this point.

I'm so sick of this loldrg stereotype and it doesn't help when SE themselves help perpetuate it in their videos.

Stereotypes normally get accepted into widespread thought patterns because they are true to an extent.

Before 2.4 I grinded out my Nexus and there was a 4hr window (2 consecutive) of Titan HM. In that time I did about 45-50 runs, and in every single one of them that had a dragoon, the dragoon died. This is not an exaggeration, there was no single dragoon that lived throughout the entire fight. I don't know if those players just didn't care about the large circles underneath their feet, or if they were trying to squeeze out another move to maintain DPS and missed their chance to dodge....either way it happened every time.

And then just a few days ago, I was farming a Levi EX mount with some raid members (and got it!!!) We went in as 2 tanks 1 heal and me as the only DPS, and DF'ed the remaining 4 ppl for the chance of extra soldiery (which we also got a lot of) and I encountered the same DRG 3 times in a row. He was amazing. For 2/3 of those runs him and I were the only DPS remaining alive when we got the kill, and the 2nd and 3rd time I saw him in DF I was very happy he got thrown into our group. His DPS was spot on, he knew how to dodge and maintain it, and most of all he never died once.

The problem is, it is far more common to run into Derpgoons, than it is to run into Dragoons. There is no reason to feel personally attacked when people laugh at Dragoons if you are one of the good ones. DRG's seem to fail harder than other DPS in general, but a really good DRG is a very potent ally. A good DRG would never be denied from my static....if we actually needed anything in our static anyway

All you can control, is to be the exception rather than the rule. Don't be one of the dragoons that sounds like a disgruntled worker....





Always askin for a raise.

[myahele]

Yeah I can see why DRGs are feeling left out since they really don't have too much utility compared to NIN or MNK. DRGs dont have increased movement speed to help them dodge. They only have a buff that'll help BRDs whereas NIN can help everyone.

And having low magic def when most aoes are magic doesn't help.

[Zumi]

You do know then 3.0 that dragoons are probably going to get some major buffs since they are big figures in the main storyline and the main character is now a dragoon. DRG will probably get call wyvern as one of the new abilities in Heavens fall making them all that much stronger.

[Morningstar1337]

You do know then 3.0 that dragoons are probably going to get some major buffs since they are big figures in the main storyline and the main character is now a dragoon. DRG will probably get call wyvern as one of the new abilities in Heavens fall making them all that much stronger.

Okay woulden;t that break the lore since the Ishgardians clearly hate dragons?

[Warlyx]

Okay woulden;t that break the lore since the Ishgardians clearly hate dragons?

yup , ishgard is on battle with dragons , and SE said that DRG wont get pets EVER.

[LordMaitreya]

Thank god.

[Ryel]

yup , ishgard is on battle with dragons , and SE said that DRG wont get pets EVER.

They also said Warrior was fine and needed no changes whatsoever as the developers had no issues using them to clear all content at the time.

But for DRG specifically Yoshida did talk about the possibility of Dragoon having a dragon come down to perform attacks with them, also stop using lore as an excuse for why things "can't" work, the lore is hardly finished for the game and things change as we go through the story

Things that were thought to be impossible become possible and alliances can be forged were there were none prior, even the way we view primals was redefined by Shiva in 2.4 and will continue to do so with 3.0 if what Yoshida has said so far is true.