2.4 Crafting and Gathering Megathread - Max Melds & Rotations

[Yonko]

Both ideas are wrong. Ing provides a very small control bonus on both 3*/4* crafts. This is a misconception that is popularized by simulators. It's not really worth it for 4*s.

Rumination rotations statistically speaking will never provide you enough CP to replace itself. The rotation was intentionally nerfed hard during the beta. Rumination should only be used for low level crafting, as well as Rumination -> Reclaim escapes

If the rumination "rotation" doesn't work please explain the screen shot from the thread with the turn in item at 89% HQ on step 50. Since your doing steady hand II (25) + hasty touch (0) + Inner Quiet (18) so the rotation is costing 43 so assuming all the Hasty touches work you'd be at 6 stacks which Rumination should turn into 45 CP. And while doing this you can have comfort zone running and get ToT for bonus CP.

I'm not saying its going to allow you to get to 100000 turn synths but saying its useless is well wrong.

[Nyalia]

I'm not saying its going to allow you to get to 100000 turn synths but saying its useless is well wrong.

The durability loss is a cost. A big one - about 28 CP per touch, which you aren't factoring in. So, that rotation isn't costing 43, it's costing ~183, all for a tiny bit of quality and nothing else. Remember, you still need to get ~10 stacks of IQ after you're done ruminating.

In regards to that screenshot, I can only imagine that's an edge case. My rotation can theoretically hit 100% if you hit every single Good condition proc possible and then BB on an Excellent with GS up. Does that mean my rotation is a 100% rotation? Hardly! It's generally about 18%. When I ran the Rumination rotation through a simulator, even assuming perfect chances, I was only seeing about a 20% average case. Without rumination, I was seeing about a 30% average case.

I strongly believe that Rumination is not the answer. But, I could easily be wrong. I'll still stick with my rumless rotations.