Ninja damage insane over monk

[Massterchef]

I play the classes occasionally since I play more PLD to grind Light, and I work full time so haven't gotten Ninja to 50 yet only about 44.

you use Suiton, Huton, and Raiton regularly for single target.

Its true you will use all 3 abilities, but realistically you will only use Raiton as part of your combo, Suiton like i said you will only use when Trick/Sneak are up and those I consider CDs, and Huton is a 70 second buff so I wont consider that as part of you regular rotation.

The Ninjutsu Rotation goes Huton - Suiton - Raiton (repeat). You will use Suiton every 3rd ninjutsu provided you are optimizing your DPS assuming Kassatsu isn't up. Each of those are a regular part of your rotation.

[ZodiacSoldier]

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And Remember what I said on my second post I think.

"I'm not saying the Ninja is easier to play, I'm just saying that people are under the misconception that they are harder to play because they are a new class. Once you play it more, it will probably come as second nature. And there aren't enough 50 Ninja yet so I can't say how their DPS compare to other classes."

Its true that Ninja will seem harder to play than MNK and DRG right now, because it hasn't even been a week yet and MNK/DRG has been out for over a year already (not including 1.0). But honestly did you think MNK/DRG were easy to play optimally when you first started it? You have to really play it for like a month or so, then I'm sure you will think that its about the same as MNK/DRG.

The Ninjutsu Rotation goes Huton - Suiton - Raiton (repeat). You will use Suiton every 3rd ninjutsu provided you are optimizing your DPS assuming Kassatsu isn't up. Each of those are a regular part of your rotation.

Ah this is true, since you will rotate these 3 since Huton is 70 seconds, but will have to refresh it 10 secs early and Sneak/Trick attack is on 60 Seconds CD. And since Ninjutsu is on a 20 sec GCD, you will rotate the three.

But like i said i dont have Ninja Max yet, so I havent really tried to optimize their rotation yet, Mindlessly Fate Zerging right now... Fun.

[Massterchef]

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Every class is easy once you've mastered it, that being said the difficulty of Monk/Dragoon are 1 dimensional because there are one set of intangibles that one needs to worry about when moving onto my next step in rotation

For example on Monk, some of the intangibles that go into the consideration of our next skill in rotation are.

Time left on DK
Time left on Demolish
Time left on ToD

However on Ninja we're taking into consideration both Ninjutsu and regular GCDs, for example.

Time left on Mutilate
Time left on Dancing Edge
Time left on SHadow Fang
Time left to use Suiton
Which ninjutsu to use after Kassatsu
Time left to use Huton
and so on.

Its 2-D because you have both a regular skill rotation and ninjutsu rotation to take into consideration when advancing in rotation.

[Noxotic]

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...oday_with_the/

[Gruntler]

Its true you will use all 3 abilities, but realistically you will only use Raiton as part of your combo, Suiton like i said you will only use when Trick/Sneak are up and those I consider CDs, and Huton is a 70 second buff so I wont consider that as part of you regular rotation.

You're wrong.

With Ninjutsu, you're going through abilities in order, going Hoton, Suiton, Raiton, rinse, repeat. You're not using Raiton and occasionally something else, you're going Ability 1, Ability 2, Ability 3, Ability 1, Ability 2, Ability 3.

[Shikyo]

hmmmm really interesting.

[silentwindfr]

the jobs is definitivly asking more skill than it seems at first sight. since, even without position, you need to always think at 2 cycle coexisting together, people can say, yes but you can have a big cycle, that true, but... how work ninjutsu make it harder to master it

since we don't simply click on one button for do our jutsu, but doing a combinaison inside the combo. i think people that will master this class will be impressive, the other will look less powerfull.

[Leonus]

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...oday_with_the/

Stupid impressive. I think that is second only to a mnk doing like 530 or 540 on a dummy.

[SolarMisae]

Stupid impressive. I think that is second only to a mnk doing like 530 or 540 on a dummy.

That video makes me wonder why drg exists now. :<

[Leonus]

Why, the guy had party buff up and what not. Drgs have done 470 without buffs on a dummy mnks are at like 490. It's not a huge difference per say and a good drg is still a monster.

There is just one more beast on the block now. Trio of awsome, mnk, drg and nin.

Some people think nins damage should be low, but if it was, no one would really want to play it over mnk and drg.