Ninja damage insane over monk

[Ricdeau]

My Ninja is still way more complex to play than Monk. Perhaps you find it easy to play Ninja, good for you. For me, it truly busts my brain. I have to devote every single bit of attention to every little detail.

Well you also have to consider that ninja hasn't even been out for a week. You will commit a lot of things to memory with more playtime just as people had to do with the other jobs in the game. It wasn't uncommon for people having a difficult time keeping up with all the buffs, debuffs, DOTs, and CD timers on monk. Bear in mind I'm not trying to say ninja is easy or anything of the sort just that things become easier and more natural to you with time. In a month you might find ninja about as easy to manage as monk, or you might still say it's just as hard. Just a few days of play time isn't much time to make a judgement on how difficult something is to play because it will still be very new and different.

[Noxotic]

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...oday_with_the/

[Leonus]

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...oday_with_the/

Stupid impressive. I think that is second only to a mnk doing like 530 or 540 on a dummy.

[SolarMisae]

Stupid impressive. I think that is second only to a mnk doing like 530 or 540 on a dummy.

That video makes me wonder why drg exists now. :<

[Leonus]

Why, the guy had party buff up and what not. Drgs have done 470 without buffs on a dummy mnks are at like 490. It's not a huge difference per say and a good drg is still a monster.

There is just one more beast on the block now. Trio of awsome, mnk, drg and nin.

Some people think nins damage should be low, but if it was, no one would really want to play it over mnk and drg.

[SolarMisae]

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Well, they also didn't have a warrior keeping storm's eye up so that number could have been even higher with that in mind. And where are these drgs who do 470 with no buffs at all and how long are these parses? With buffs I pull about 470 or so if I parse till I run dry on TP. I must suck if I'm supposed to do that without buffs. :<

It just feels like ninja brings so much more to the party as a whole as well. They bring a 10% damage debuff for 10sec every minute for the whole party, and goad also means less tp song for the bard to play meaning they don't take dps hits. Even if they dps about the same, ninja wins on sheer utility while still outputting equal or more dps. Only exception I see to this would be maybe if you have 2 bards in your party disembowel becomes the better choice.

[dday3six]

That video makes me wonder why drg exists now. :<

Dragoon buffs Bard damage, something people often seem to overlook. I know we're talking individual damage, but it's something to consider with the question of why play Dragoon. Ninja with similar damage, yet more utility is imo more likely to replace Monk in raids rather then Dragoon.

[silentwindfr]

the jobs is definitivly asking more skill than it seems at first sight. since, even without position, you need to always think at 2 cycle coexisting together, people can say, yes but you can have a big cycle, that true, but... how work ninjutsu make it harder to master it

since we don't simply click on one button for do our jutsu, but doing a combinaison inside the combo. i think people that will master this class will be impressive, the other will look less powerfull.

[silentwindfr]

don't forget that the ninja is already create with the 3.0 in the mind, we don't know how will change the jobs like drg or mnk with the 3.0... without forget a lot of this jobs have still skill coming from the V1 that wasn't very balanced and such.
like i have said on another thread, theorycrafting is nice, but it's still only theorycraft. only a small portion of the playerbase will be able to pull the perfect cycle all the time. play what you like with your friend that all.

Dragoon buffs Bard damage, something people often seem to overlook. I know we're talking individual damage, but it's something to consider with the question of why play Dragoon. Ninja with similar damage, yet more utility is imo more likely to replace Monk in raids rather then Dragoon.

good ninja will probably, but like said, it will be harder than it seems, it's not without reason that ninja have almost no position recquired for him combo... it's because your mind will need to learn and master the jutsu inside the cycle while avoiding aoe and respecting pattern. dummy parseer are nice, but they are still far from reality!

[dday3six]

good ninja will probably, but like said, it will be harder than it seems, it's not without reason that ninja have almost no position recquired for him combo... it's because your mind will need to learn and master the jutsu inside the cycle while avoiding aoe and respecting pattern. dummy parseer are nice, but they are still far from reality!

A fair point. However I believe many people have issues with Mudra timing because they are so use to mashing. I compare it to Paladins who are able to Stun in fights. They have learned if they slow down, just a touch rather than mashing for the next skill, they are better able to use Shield Bash.