Ninja damage insane over monk

[Leonus]

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...oday_with_the/

Stupid impressive. I think that is second only to a mnk doing like 530 or 540 on a dummy.

[SolarMisae]

Stupid impressive. I think that is second only to a mnk doing like 530 or 540 on a dummy.

That video makes me wonder why drg exists now. :<

[Leonus]

Why, the guy had party buff up and what not. Drgs have done 470 without buffs on a dummy mnks are at like 490. It's not a huge difference per say and a good drg is still a monster.

There is just one more beast on the block now. Trio of awsome, mnk, drg and nin.

Some people think nins damage should be low, but if it was, no one would really want to play it over mnk and drg.

[SolarMisae]

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Well, they also didn't have a warrior keeping storm's eye up so that number could have been even higher with that in mind. And where are these drgs who do 470 with no buffs at all and how long are these parses? With buffs I pull about 470 or so if I parse till I run dry on TP. I must suck if I'm supposed to do that without buffs. :<

It just feels like ninja brings so much more to the party as a whole as well. They bring a 10% damage debuff for 10sec every minute for the whole party, and goad also means less tp song for the bard to play meaning they don't take dps hits. Even if they dps about the same, ninja wins on sheer utility while still outputting equal or more dps. Only exception I see to this would be maybe if you have 2 bards in your party disembowel becomes the better choice.

[Leonus]

I'll have to find the video.

The 10% damage buff mire or less equates to the disembowel that drgs keep up at (almost) all times. It's only once a minute too. Don't get me wrong, it's awesome, but not head over heels in comparison to what drg does for brd with disembowel or what mnks can do for each other.

Goad is awesome, no denying that. Though it should not replace brds doing tp regeneration song. It's once every two minutes and more than likely will have a priority system along with it. Tanks if they need it 》mnk/drg/other nin lol 》 brd ( let's be honest, if a brd asks for goad, chances are the other dps are running low on their tp reserves as well).

I mean, nin is very good ( love the job ) but drg will still have a place. I also really like drg. If you think about it, if you have a brd in you pt, you may want a drg and nin and not necessarily a nin and mnk. There is more party chemistry there.

[SolarMisae]

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Yeah, I can see ninja/drg working very well if you have a bard. Gotta wonder if that would result in higher party dps...

[ShaolinMike]

I'll have to find the video.

The 10% damage buff mire or less equates to the disembowel that drgs keep up at (almost) all times. It's only once a minute too. Don't get me wrong, it's awesome, but not head over heels in comparison to what drg does for brd with disembowel or what mnks can do for each other.

Except that it benefits the entire party, not just one job.

[Leonus]

Except that it benefits the entire party, not just one job.

I know, but it's once a minute and not almost the entire fight.

boost the entire parties damage for 1 minute in a 6 minute fight.

Boost a party members damage for 5 minutes and 45 seconds out of a 6 minute fight.

people are really overreacting to it. All the unnecessary attention is gonna get it an unwarranted nerf.

Give it some time before people call it broken.

[dday3six]

That video makes me wonder why drg exists now. :<

Dragoon buffs Bard damage, something people often seem to overlook. I know we're talking individual damage, but it's something to consider with the question of why play Dragoon. Ninja with similar damage, yet more utility is imo more likely to replace Monk in raids rather then Dragoon.