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    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    U must've forgotten bout how STUPID Ishgardians are and that they can be so easily FOOLED right under their noses with that imposter inqusitor.
    Guillaume was elezen. And the thing with the heretics is that practically anyone in Ishgard could be one. There is no reliable way for any of them to be sure who is sympathetic towards the Dravanians.

    And that means I can hardly call the Ishgardians stupid for being manipulated by a Dravanian spy, who for all intents and purposes, looks physically no different from anyone else among them.

    A Garlean, on the other the hand... Well, it'll depend on how much of a fool we think Aymeric is. It's hard to imagine an astute and highly careful commander like him to not know that Lucia is Garlean (if she is indeed one), and then to go further and keep it secret, presumably because he thinks she's an asset. Keeping such matters secret would jeopardise his own position as commander. What would justify him taking such political risk?

    Granted, Raubahn was fooled by Eline Roaille, but as explained by Ilberd and Alphinaud, circumstances in Ul'dah were very different compared to the other city-states, making the desert nation particularly vulnerable to Garlean infiltration. Ishgard is far more homogenous ethnically, and also much more paranoid politically, making the odds of infiltration that much lower.

    Still, who knows? I'm not insisting that the theory is impossible. Just pointing out how extraordinary it would be for Lucia to be Garlean.

    Bear in mind she appears taller than Livia, who, as far as I know, was also a pure-blood Garlean. Their neutral standing poses are also different. If you observe carefully, you'll notice that Lucia's standing pose is that of an elezen female, while Livia's standing pose was more aggressive, more similar to that of a highlander woman. Take that for what you will.
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    Of course, I was just speculating - I have no evidence that Lucia is Garlean, but I am just weary of blonde characters with forehead coverings!
    Quote Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf View Post
    Bear in mind she appears taller than Livia, who, as far as I know, was also a pure-blood Garlean.
    It is mentioned that Livia is an "orphan of war" whom is raised by Gaius , so I would assume that she is of Hyur decent and found in a conquered nation, possibly Ala Mhigo or somewhere in Othard. Though, I could be wrong there - I am a bit fuzzy on the 2.0 memories now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyan View Post
    Of course, I was just speculating - I have no evidence that Lucia is Garlean, but I am just weary of blonde characters with forehead coverings!

    It is mentioned that Livia is an "orphan of war" whom is raised by Gaius , so I would assume that she is of Hyur decent and found in a conquered nation, possibly Ala Mhigo or somewhere in Othard. Though, I could be wrong there - I am a bit fuzzy on the 2.0 memories now!
    I was just about to post this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyan View Post
    It is mentioned that Livia is an "orphan of war" whom is raised by Gaius , so I would assume that she is of Hyur decent and found in a conquered nation, possibly Ala Mhigo or somewhere in Othard. Though, I could be wrong there - I am a bit fuzzy on the 2.0 memories now!
    Ah, good point. It's more likely that I remembered wrong. Livia was known for her daddy issues. (Your link doesn't seem to work, by the way.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf View Post
    Granted, Raubahn was fooled by Eline Roaille, but as explained by Ilberd and Alphinaud, circumstances in Ul'dah were very different compared to the other city-states, making the desert nation particularly vulnerable to Garlean infiltration. Ishgard is far more homogenous ethnically, and also much more paranoid politically, making the odds of infiltration that much lower.
    One major point you missed out, that an Ascian is upto some mischief in Ishgard too, how much he influences politics is yet to be ascertained.
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