Be Wiser! DF commence withdraw penalty affects your party.

[Empressia]

OP complained about ninja party invite twice but accepted twice too!

[Alukah]

But since you can only "Join In Progress" when you are solo and not in party, why not just remove the commence penalty when in a pre-made party?

I feel like this was a major oversight, the penalty should only be applied to those who entered DF solo.

[BobbinT]

OP complained about ninja party invite twice but accepted twice too!

You need to learn to read, kid.

On 1st case, I don't really mind since it's from LS mate. What I do get pissed is the unintentional withdraw from the tank which affects whole party, including me.

For that 3rd case, really? Let me ask you back: What you "usually" do when high rank hunt pops when you still need those allied seals & tomestones?

And ignoring the fact of those both cases, are you trying to tell me to be an ass?

[Marisela]

You need to learn to read, kid.

On 1st case, I don't really mind since it's from LS mate. What I do get pissed is the unintentional withdraw from the tank which affects whole party, including me.

For that 3rd case, really? Let me ask you back: What you "usually" do when high rank hunt pops when you still need those allied seals & tomestones?

And ignoring the fact of those both cases, are you trying to tell me to be an ass?

Wait, so if you are in a party. And someone didn't press commence during a duty, that count as a penalty too?

Also I don't get your 1st scenario. Why did you get a 30 minutes penalty for nothing pressing commence? Did you enter and then left? Wouldn't that count as 30 minutes penalty only and doesn't effect the commence that have to happen 3 times?

[BobbinT]

Wait, so if you are in a party. And someone didn't press commence during a duty, that count as a penalty too?

Also I don't get your 1st scenario. Why did you get a 30 minutes penalty for nothing pressing commence? Did you enter and then left? Wouldn't that count as 30 minutes penalty only and doesn't effect the commence that have to happen 3 times?

Short story: Anyone who doesn't commence or press withdraw will inflict penalty on all party member. I did ask that ls mate and tank, and they did say getting same penalty.

And no, I haven't left party yet when that happened.

And... every strikes will nail you a 30 minutes penalty.

I think the 3 strikes would led to full day penalty, but I haven't found that out yet.

[Elim]

My assumption - and I'm sure it's a good one that most people would agree with - is that this mechanism was designed to deter in-progress hunting. Since you cannot join in-progress with a party, I see no reason why they couldn't keep the system as is to serve its purpose while removing it from pre-made party queues. This leaves only the vanishingly small number of people withdrawing as a party to troll individuals, but I suspect the number of occurrences of such an activity is negligible.

Most of this reflects my thoughts. Although they could just give a penalty to the person in the party who withdrew.

[Marisela]

Short story: Anyone who doesn't commence or press withdraw will inflict penalty on all party member. I did ask that ls mate and tank, and they did say getting same penalty.

And no, I haven't left party yet when that happened.

And... every strikes will nail you a 30 minutes penalty.

I think the 3 strikes would led to full day penalty, but I haven't found that out yet.

I guess this only happen if the party is not full, since I didn't get any penalty when in a Ramuh Extreme party and someone was afk. Still, this doesn't look like it is working as intended and leave for lots of room to troll or force people to come to Dungeon with them. Especially now with Ninja and how it work you still get penalty when someone did it and not yourself. Hopefully the maintain down time will address this issue.

[Sapphic]

Well be sure to thank all the players fishing for in progress for SE feeling the need to have to implement this.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[BobbinT]

I guess this only happen if the party is not full, since I didn't get any penalty when in a Ramuh Extreme party and someone was afk.

That's really good news. But is this happening post patch 2.4 or before?

[Marisela]

That's really good news. But is this happening post patch 2.4 or before?

On Patch 2.4.