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  1. #21
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    Translating from Japanese to English is very difficult and things get lost in translation. It will be sorted out and explained eventually - no point worrying or speculating with virtually no information.

    I'm just glad they officially announced it (Dark Knight).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Then DRK should be one of the first to get a " Job+Job= DRK" But they flat out said DRK will not have a Prereq ( just get DRK and level it up, no getting Jobs to a certain level).

    " That may require" That was not set in stone back then and it's still isn't now.
    back then there was a info from Yoshi said that player have to choose between Dark Knight or PLD, but there were voice against that so they ll look into it. But the info are a year old, so thing might change. So the OP was not wrong when say ppl jump the gun, because they are jump the gun atm.

    Dark Knight (DK) does not requried class, mean DK can required something else but they will not tell you atm, at the live letter maybe. There was no words about abolish class, IF they abolish class, they will say they abolish class and why, but here there aren't, so don't jump the gun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    back then there was a info from Yoshi said that player have to choose between Dark Knight or PLD, but there were voice against that so they ll look into it. But the info are a year old, so thing might change. So the OP was not wrong when say ppl jump the gun, because they are jump the gun atm.

    Dark Knight (DK) does not requried class, mean DK can required something else but they will not tell you atm, at the live letter maybe
    They also said no Prereq, nothing like ( 30 class/job, 15 class/job) will exist in the DRK Job ( and probably future jobs as well.)

    Yes we need more info. Yes they didn't say "abolish classes", but I feel they are implying it. We will just have to see ( only 5-6 more monthsish till Expansion).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    They also said no Prereq, nothing like ( 30 class/job, 15 class/job) will exist in the DRK Job ( and probably future jobs as well.)

    Yes we need more info. Yes they didn't say "abolish classes", but I feel they are implying it. We will just have to see ( only 5-6 more monthsish till Expansion).
    we ll see at the jp fan festival about the next job
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    we ll see at the jp fan festival about the next job
    Right the slide only mentions No classes. But they also said ( according to people that saw the Keynote) that there will not be any prereqs either. ( I just have to wait for someone to upload the video so I can confirm this 100% for myself.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    we ll see at the jp fan festival about the next job
    considering that they are hinting at the new job announce at the jp will be the gun wielding one it will prolly be classless... Yoshi stated in the Las Vegas fanfest that the expansion will have "new jobs" no mention about new classes which the gun wielder would need since weapons atm, even the DrK ones are class/job specific
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    Guys I'm sorry but i really can not see them removing the class system anytime soon, that would require way to much work, for one they would beed to either delete all the class story and lore or make it based around jobs, then they would have to rework all the job story quests and lore, not to mention rename all the guilds, re work all the class traits and abilities so they belong to the job instead, that not forgetting reworking menus and the like

    I can see them either retweaking the class system or having the expansion have classless jobs, dont forget we have hardly no knowledge of the ishardian lore, their history, for all we know the jobs in their city state work differently to ours. did the allagan civilization even have a pressence in ishagard and dravania ?

    It just mind boggling that everyone thinks it will be removed entirely when the class system is so tied into 2.0 and the content we currently have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaynanTesla View Post
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    Yep got to agree on this concept that another possible outcome is that New Jobs from 3.0 and higher will introduce stand alone Jobs.

    Current Classes will most likely stay while new Jobs introduced will be stand alone themselves so they will not require new classes everytime a new Job is introduced.

    This will also allow them to shove more new Jobs during 3.X era during any 3.X patch they want without needing a New class to go with the new Jobs.

    They will most likely introduced a lore explaining why new Jobs do not have their own class anyways so it better to just wait until they reveal the lore behind why the New Jobs like Dark Knight do not have their own class.
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    I have been thinking they'd be removing classes for months now. Classes are hold the game back. They stifle creativity, not promote it. Creating new jobs means they have to work around preexisting templates that weren't designed with any other jobs in mind. Would it be cool if Dark Knight branched off of Gladiator? Yes, in theory it would be cool. In practice, that is creating double the work for half the payout. The result wouldn't feel anything like Dark Knight because Gladiator was designed to be Paladin.

    Hell, look at Summoner. It's template was designed in conjunction with two jobs and Summoner still doesn't live up to the namesake. I wouldn't even consider it a pet class. It relies too much on it's groundwork and not enough on the job it is supposed to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaynanTesla View Post
    Guys I'm sorry but i really can not see them removing the class system anytime soon, that would require way to much work, for one they would beed to either delete all the class story and lore or make it based around jobs, then they would have to rework all the job story quests and lore, not to mention rename all the guilds, re work all the class traits and abilities so they belong to the job instead, that not forgetting reworking menus and the like

    I can see them either retweaking the class system or having the expansion have classless jobs, dont forget we have hardly no knowledge of the ishardian lore, their history, for all we know the jobs in their city state work differently to ours. did the allagan civilization even have a pressence in ishagard and dravania ?

    It just mind boggling that everyone thinks it will be removed entirely when the class system is so tied into 2.0 and the content we currently have.
    Or they could just have the classes turn into jobs at level 30? That is almost no work.
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