Dark Knight

[Rosalynd]

Tell me more about the tank-ability of Gil Toss in FF5 and Cyan in FF6.

Well, to be fair on Cyan, he WAS the tank for the small segment where you take him, Sabin the train suplexing badass and Shadow the ninja to the forest / phantom train / ocean trench. After that segment and a brief stopoff in a theatre(if you take him with you) he is whatever you build him to be thanks to the stat altering properties of magicite.

In one of my playthroughs i had RELM built as a tank for the lulz.

[zar]

It is in fact you who needs to get over it, DRK has been confirmed a tank class and that is not going to change.

No, let them stay salty. It's entertaining.

[Mugiawara]

Says the guy who thinks Cecil is the first DRK. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

FFII, III, Tactics, X-2, XI and serveral side titles with other naming conventions for the same class, all, are DRK DPS classes. While, he defends on Cecil, which also was more DPS inclined than a tank. LOL.
The tradition is that DRK are HP trade DPS classes. Get over it. DRK as a tank goes against FF history.

You're becoming hysterical over nothing lol.
Like no one else on here is acting up as bad as you are lol.
Over the makers of this game decide to a bit differently in THEIR GAME.
I'm sorry but this whole topic is funny. xDDDD

@Zar. I bought drinks!

[Alkimi]

no Scythe weapon? maybe will a add the scythe.

Scythe is already in the game. Rightly it's a tool for gathering.

[Enkidoh]

NiN in ffxi was made a tank, if that can happen i dont see why Dark Knight can be a tank in FFXIV.. heck it even makes more sense

Lets not start this again - SE never intended NIN to tank in FFXI, that was the lazy player community who made the Job like that - abusing what was meant to originally be simply a 'get-out-of-jail-free-card'. Once Utsusemi went down NINs didn't last long at all if they had hate, showing full well they were not tanks. They were literally paper tigers.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

It is in fact you who needs to get over it, DRK has been confirmed a tank class and that is not going to change.

Im already over it. Samurai is going to be healer too. They can do whatever they want with classes, point is, when you build up a franchise and give your fans certain "traditions" don`t expect everyone to just accept it when you change them. No one liked NIN as a tank for a reason.

They can, and will do what they want, but that doesn`t make it right. DRK are DPS classes, period.

Tell me more about the tank-ability of Gil Toss in FF5 and Cyan in FF6.

Gil Toss is a samurai skill and cyan was a samurai not a DRK, wtf with this post xD?

[Snugglebutt]

For all the people arguing over Dark Knight's legacy and what not the real reason the class is a tank has somehow gone ignored. Tanks are unplayed and people were excited to play DRK, this is their way of trying to draw people to an underplayed role just like tanks getting exclusive mounts was.

...and it is working, I never wanted to play as a tank using PLD or WAR but as a DRK I am for the first time interested in playing as a tanking class and benefits the entire community which is very much lacking in tankers.

[KrenianKandos]

so paladin was the 2nd highest dps in that game. does that make paladin a dps now in xiv?

get over yourself

The point

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^ your head.


Just saying. PLD was not second highest dps in the game. It was to accurately show you that the typical tanking stats of Strength, Vitality and Defense were higher than everyone else which leads to the tanking ethos. But yeah, you keep telling yourself I have 'strawman arguments'

Kids these days...don't know how to argue their points anymore.

[Gilthas]

Says the guy who thinks Cecil is the first DRK. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

FFII, III, Tactics, X-2, XI and serveral side titles with other naming conventions for the same class, all, are DRK DPS classes. While, he defends on Cecil, which also was more DPS inclined than a tank. LOL.
The tradition is that DRK are HP trade DPS classes. Get over it. DRK as a tank goes against FF history.

Actually, in FFII there were just characters called Dragoons and Dark Knights. Everyone was the same. In fact, Ricard (the Dragoon) didn't even start with any spear proficiencies in FFII.

The Dark Knight in the original FFIII used low level White Magic, had nothing resembling Souleater and wore the tanky gear.

So no, DRK wasn't a DD in FFII (there were no classes), nor was it much of a DD in FFIII either.

[Darkstride]

Dark Knight could easily use darkness to tank. The old THM from 1.0 actually had a lot of defensive Dark-based spells, which could see a comeback with Dark Knight. For example:

*Dread Spikes - steals HP from enemies that hit you

*Drain - steals HP from enemies

*Sanguine Rite - Restores MP in proportion to damage taken. I thought it also reduced incoming damage, but could be wrong.

*Absorb ACC/ATK/DEF/EVA - Transfers a portion of the target's accuracy/attack/defense/evasion to you.

*Shadowsear - Deals damage and increases your magic potency in proportion to the different in HP between you and the target.

*Punishing Barbs - Channel your pain to an enemy, redirecting a portion of damage dealt to you back to its source.

*Gravity - Reduces the movement speed of enemies within area of effect.

*Sacrifice - Heals a portion of HP and additional HP over time to party members with area of effect.

*Damnation - Haunt an enemy with visions of the hells, dealing damage. Grants the Caster MP in Proportion of to the damage dealt.

*Blood Rite - Spill your own blood in a sacrificial rite, enhancing magic potency.

*Silhouette - Launch a shadowy attack, dealing damage to the target decreasing enmity. Damage type varies with equipped arm. (would obviously need to be reversed to increase enmity).

*Soul Ward - Allows target to instantaneously revive upon being KO'd.

*Shadowfall - Launch an icy attack, dealing damage and temporarily incapacitating the target.

*Emulate - Imitate the very essence of another, assuming the target's elemental resistances.

*Contagion - Share your anguish, transferring all of your enfeebling effects to the target.

*Mass Fear - Causes enemies within area of effect to flee in terror.

*Stygian Spikes - Deals damage over time and reduces the defense of enemies within area of effect.

Someone made a video showcasing 1.0 classes and their abilities, so you can see them being used here:
http://youtu.be/h1m0B_OTjsk?t=11m28s

Admittedly, the old THM also felt very "Red Mage" as it held a lot of utility spells, but I think Dark Knight could definitely take a cue from it and become a very interesting tank.