Things that need to change for the better

[Hayden]

Voke isn't broken, people just can't contemplate how it works now because there either very very slow or honestly confused.

Before patch 1.18 Voke was used as a primary methord for getting hate, now its simply a support. Voke ALONE (no matter how many times you rage spam it) will never get you the hate. you need to mix it with Damage like Heavy Stab, and other abilities, war drums and circle slash.

If you use voke to compliment the attacks and skills needed, you'll have no problem keeping hate.

DD's and such need to also learn how to control their damage as well and healers and such the same.

*GASP* You mean there's no longer one MAGIC button we can press to keep hate! You mean battles from here on will require effort and strategy and...gasp....PLANNING! Well that's it this game sucks I'm taking my ball and going home! *sarcasm*

[Physic]

Voke isn't broken, people just can't contemplate how it works now because there either very very slow or honestly confused.

Before patch 1.18 Voke was used as a primary methord for getting hate, now its simply a support. Voke ALONE (no matter how many times you rage spam it) will never get you the hate. you need to mix it with Damage like Heavy Stab, and other abilities, war drums and circle slash.

If you use voke to compliment the attacks and skills needed, you'll have no problem keeping hate.

DD's and such need to also learn how to control their damage as well and healers and such the same.

*GASP* You mean there's no longer one MAGIC button we can press to keep hate! You mean battles from here on will require effort and strategy and...gasp....PLANNING! Well that's it this game sucks I'm taking my ball and going home! *sarcasm*

my guess is, the hate problem has a lot to do with high defense monsters, Since they say that hate is mostly dps based now. With high defense monsters, tanks hate is going to go down drastically. Im also assuming cure works as having a % of it counted as dmg to the monster. Once again, with high end monsters, they will take very little dmg, but do a lot of dmg, cure is going unmitigated.

So say you are a gld, normally your hate tools work fine, because your voke is just in addition to some dmg, say you normally would do 1000 dmg in 30 seconds, take 1000 dmg, and with your enimity skills, and etc even getting healed for 1000 you would still be pretty high in hate.

But now, on high end monsters, you do 100 dmg, take 1000, get healed for 1000, even if your adding 700 enimity equivalent, the healer will still get smashed for keeping you alive. This is consistent with the fact that people are only really noticing emnity issues on NMs, for regular combat, it may be perfectly fine.

It may needs some adjusting, or maybe its just a bad idea, but probably people will have to experiment with hate and emnity a bit more in these situations, its possible that using the proper skills differently from before will solve the issues, its also possible its just messed up, more testing needs to occur though