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  1. 07-25-2011 12:46 PM

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    Things that need to change for the better: The anti-social NA community... no matter how good this game could get in the future, a horrible "Cricket" community like we have atm makes everything moot and beyond pathetic. There IS life outside your bubble (LS) People *sigh* No one can even issue a simple hi or thank you for anything it's pretty retarded Lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misha View Post
    Things that need to change for the better: The anti-social NA community... no matter how good this game could get in the future, a horrible "Cricket" community like we have atm makes everything moot and beyond pathetic. There IS life outside your bubble (LS) People *sigh* No one can even issue a simple hi or thank you for anything it's pretty retarded Lmao
    If I could +500 this, I would. Regardless even though im still not in the 40s 50s yet, I have to agree with all the people saying that most of the adjustments are fine just need to be tweaked a little. Challenge is what makes the game fun. Might as well just bot if you want to get to everything without any real work lol.

    My only suggestion to enmity is that SE adjusts what happens when you spawn monsters (via levequest or forced spawn). I don't know why but even if my party is far out of aggro range or even out of visible range sometimes as soon as I pop the monsters (as a gladiator) they beeline straight for the other party members. I even tried having them pop the monsters to possibly have the reverse effect work in my favor but then they still attack them instead of me right off spawn. Anyone else have this issue? (Note: Just to clarify, I'm not talking about holding hate against these spawned monsters, im talking about the 'hatelist' they spawn with.)
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    i still can't believe it that more and more ppl getting past by the dungeon and here is two people asking for nerf that never get past the dungeon.

    This is why everyone is opposing this thread because MAJORITY of the people who oppose are the very PEOPLE who pass the dungeon.

    and for the two ppl who asking for NERF, GET GOING INTO THE GAME AND TRY TO FREAKING PASS THE DUNGEONS!! YOUR THREAD IS A FREAKING TROLL BY IT SELF!!
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    They do need to change for the better

    I like some of the changes the patch has brought. I thought that SE would develop the horrific co-dependent/dependent relationship you had to have with people in FFXI. So far when it comes to just getting SP, it seems okay at the moment. I think they need to take the limit of leves because it's not fair that party players can spam instances all day. I have heard several people whine for months about new content. The only real new content I have seen is the company quests stories. Party players want to have everyone in a party, and make solo success nothing. Thing is, it has nothing to do with being in a bubble as one of the miqo players on here stated. On XI I enjoyed playing with my friends, I also helped anyone and everyone I could. In the end I got plain used alot... WoW was the same but atleast they weren't smiling at you kissing up and being fake so they could get the next two days of your time to help them do AF quests or some other insane task. You had a choice if you wanted to associate with someone there. Yeah, people in WoW were pricks don't get me wrong, but at least they were honest. I like the idea of the instanced raids, I don't like the idea of someone telling me I need to level up 5 other classes or so to do the ONE ONLY class I am interested in at this time properly. It's time consuming, and not everyone has time to sit on a game and do nothing else forever. A young man with cancer once told me "MMORPGs are a life style" I felt horrible but I had to call him out and say "Just because people aren't bed ridden and can do nothing else doesn't mean they should have to miss out too." This isn't content, it's the grind. I wonder if it made the sick young man feel superior to get to act like he's supreme in a game only but probably not real life. They'd say sometimes in XI, "This gear is a sign of prestige" Okay... the second dumbest thing I've ever heard an MMORPGer say. To those who had the gear that could take 6 months or a year to get... When was the last time you got out of your REAL bubble.. I myself am disabled and don't get out much, but it doesn't mean I want this game system to be geared toward people who haven't even been on a date in the past 6 months or more! They need to either make all the effort you put into getting something worth it, or make it so solo players have their gear/SP opportunities too beyond having to shout or play a highly desired job they don't like to get a party to obtain this same goal. Yeah, don't take the grind away from those who want to party play, but don't give them the upper hand. In XI I hated the adventures of shouting for help to see prishe and alma.. that wasn't a story.. that was pain, and not cause of the CSes being so long.. but the time between them being longer. Shout for a job to form a party to enjoy something so simple as the story? I'd see people on the job we needed decked to the teeth.. they sit there all day, I know they weren't afk cause they'd stir a bit or look at my character when I examined them. If you sent them a tell it was "1mil and I'll help" or something else stupid. These idiots had gotten all the great mighty gear and had NOTHING to do anymore... so they took to sitting around and belittling anyone who had a real life in the real world, and couldn't have all they did. I know this is a "Wall of text" but it's not meant to insult people... it's meant to maybe see the other side too. Sorry if this post is too long for some of the less literate ones to sit through and not get angry about it's length. But I think to enjoy the game they need to make rewards for soloing be equal to party play, that way I can choose to just be with a few friends, instead of trying to be nice to some jerk so I can get somewhere in a game. Yeah it's fun to talk about how big and bad you are cause you have spent like 5 years of your life to get all the jobs up and deck them all out... go tell someone in the real world, the world people actually live in, they'll either laugh at you or they're not going to see it as some great accomplishment.. in the end when an MMO dies and the servers finally come down... you had nothing... nothing but an eternal grind, and nothing to show for it in the end but time spent doing something other than maybe making friends in your town or going to college and actually FOCUSING on it.. or any other true accomplishment you could have done in that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santrale View Post
    I like some of the changes the patch has brought. I thought that SE would develop the horrific co-dependent/dependent relationship you had to have with people in FFXI. So far when it comes to just getting SP, it seems okay at the moment. I think they need to take the limit of leves because it's not fair that party players can spam instances all day. I have heard several people whine for months about new content. The only real new content I have seen is the company quests stories. Party players want to have everyone in a party, and make solo success nothing. Thing is, it has nothing to do with being in a bubble as one of the miqo players on here stated. On XI I enjoyed playing with my friends, I also helped anyone and everyone I could. In the end I got plain used alot... WoW was the same but atleast they weren't smiling at you kissing up and being fake so they could get the next two days of your time to help them do AF quests or some other insane task. You had a choice if you wanted to associate with someone there. Yeah, people in WoW were pricks don't get me wrong, but at least they were honest. I like the idea of the instanced raids, I don't like the idea of someone telling me I need to level up 5 other classes or so to do the ONE ONLY class I am interested in at this time properly. It's time consuming, and not everyone has time to sit on a game and do nothing else forever. A young man with cancer once told me "MMORPGs are a life style" I felt horrible but I had to call him out and say "Just because people aren't bed ridden and can do nothing else doesn't mean they should have to miss out too." This isn't content, it's the grind. I wonder if it made the sick young man feel superior to get to act like he's supreme in a game only but probably not real life. They'd say sometimes in XI, "This gear is a sign of prestige" Okay... the second dumbest thing I've ever heard an MMORPGer say. To those who had the gear that could take 6 months or a year to get... When was the last time you got out of your REAL bubble.. I myself am disabled and don't get out much, but it doesn't mean I want this game system to be geared toward people who haven't even been on a date in the past 6 months or more! They need to either make all the effort you put into getting something worth it, or make it so solo players have their gear/SP opportunities too beyond having to shout or play a highly desired job they don't like to get a party to obtain this same goal. Yeah, don't take the grind away from those who want to party play, but don't give them the upper hand. In XI I hated the adventures of shouting for help to see prishe and alma.. that wasn't a story.. that was pain, and not cause of the CSes being so long.. but the time between them being longer. Shout for a job to form a party to enjoy something so simple as the story? I'd see people on the job we needed decked to the teeth.. they sit there all day, I know they weren't afk cause they'd stir a bit or look at my character when I examined them. If you sent them a tell it was "1mil and I'll help" or something else stupid. These idiots had gotten all the great mighty gear and had NOTHING to do anymore... so they took to sitting around and belittling anyone who had a real life in the real world, and couldn't have all they did. I know this is a "Wall of text" but it's not meant to insult people... it's meant to maybe see the other side too. Sorry if this post is too long for some of the less literate ones to sit through and not get angry about it's length. But I think to enjoy the game they need to make rewards for soloing be equal to party play, that way I can choose to just be with a few friends, instead of trying to be nice to some jerk so I can get somewhere in a game. Yeah it's fun to talk about how big and bad you are cause you have spent like 5 years of your life to get all the jobs up and deck them all out... go tell someone in the real world, the world people actually live in, they'll either laugh at you or they're not going to see it as some great accomplishment.. in the end when an MMO dies and the servers finally come down... you had nothing... nothing but an eternal grind, and nothing to show for it in the end but time spent doing something other than maybe making friends in your town or going to college and actually FOCUSING on it.. or any other true accomplishment you could have done in that time.
    Hmm can you please break in paragraphs? is making me dizzy to even start reading it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce View Post
    Hmm can you please break in paragraphs? is making me dizzy to even start reading it.
    Sorry I should have used more proper structure and made paragraphs.. heh...
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    The ogre is extremely easy.. all you have to do is bring 5 archers and you can kill him in 5 minutes

    same with HNM,

    Any mobs that use strong AOE makes close range DD a liability- the mages have to spend tons of mp keeping them alive and also risking taking emnity.

    so to sum up- YES the game is broken atm

    all the other things are trivial
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue View Post
    The ogre is extremely easy.. all you have to do is bring 5 archers and you can kill him in 5 minutes

    same with HNM,

    Any mobs that use strong AOE makes close range DD a liability- the mages have to spend tons of mp keeping them alive and also risking taking emnity.

    so to sum up- YES the game is broken atm

    all the other things are trivial
    Ranged DD makes it easier, but it's not impossible with just DoM + Melees, either.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue View Post
    The ogre is extremely easy.. all you have to do is bring 5 archers and you can kill him in 5 minutes

    same with HNM,

    Any mobs that use strong AOE makes close range DD a liability- the mages have to spend tons of mp keeping them alive and also risking taking emnity.

    so to sum up- YES the game is broken atm

    all the other things are trivial
    Comments like these are what causes threads like these. Sure it's easy with an ARC burn. But don't be fooled, it's just as easy with any other setup. People already know that arrow burns work great, why bother stating it yet again?

    Perhaps they should just delete archer entirely. Replace them with another H2H class since they already use their fists in auto attack. If that were the case, this thread wouldn't even exist. /sarcasm
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