SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[Kensei]

lol, I like how you say you were lied to when infact he didn't lie at all he said the PROCESS not the actual gains, silly boy.

This is what he said "I don’t want there to be a huge loss of skill points imposed for dying, or for players to have to grind 5–6 hours a day for 8 months to get to the high ranks. "


It may not be for 8 months but we will now have to do exactly that. Grind groups were very rare before the patch and now it's the only viable option.

The literal process still remains the same, leves reset, you do them, repeat, that hasn't changed. Gains may have changed, but you don't have fatigue anymore so they had to change something, they can't just have you making baller EXP while lifting your ability to do so as much as you want, that'll make people reach level cap quicker get bored quicker and quit quicker.

The process includes the speed at which we rank up. Lower gains means slower ranking up. It was nerfed. And you know what makes people quit quicker? Grinding for hours and hours not ranking up once.

I also believe someone mentioned you can, infact, obtain EXP in other ways now.

Yeah there are many ways. All slower than pre-patch. Apparently you haven't read the many times I have acknowledged it but that's irrelevant to the point of the thread.

Furthermore, GEEZ, some of you whine a lot. You act like Yoshi isn't trying to make the game better in anyway and is trying to make your free to play experience MISERABLE, god forbid you give the man a chance before you crucify him for making your level up experience not lightning fast. Are you guys shooting for CN page grinding and Abyssea grinding like FFXI or what?

Nope. I am not whining I pointed a lie by the producer. Whether it was intentional that ranking up slowed down or a development oversight is irrelevant. Other that the lie I am very much pleased with the work Yoshi has done. I mentioned this earlier in the thread.

[Hayden]

I think Yoshi could give everyone a solid gold house fully equipped with servants, food for a year and a pool of chocolate and they'd STILL find something to complain about.

[Kiote]

This is what he said "I don’t want there to be a huge loss of skill points imposed for dying, or for players to have to grind 5–6 hours a day for 8 months to get to the high ranks. "


It may not be for 8 months but we will now have to do exactly that. Grind groups were very rare before the patch and now it's the only viable option.



The process includes the speed at which we rank up. Lower gains means slower ranking up. It was nerfed. And you know what makes people quit quicker? Grinding for hours and hours not ranking up once.




Yeah there are many ways. All slower than pre-patch. Apparently you haven't read the many times I have acknowledged it but that's irrelevant to the point of the thread.



Nope. I am not whining I pointed a lie by the producer. Whether it was intentional that ranking up slowed down or a development oversight is irrelevant. Other that the lie I am very much pleased with the work Yoshi has done. I mentioned this earlier in the thread.

People should stop debating with this guy.. There gets to be a point where a persons ignorance of their own short coming makes it impossible to see they are wrong.

If you learn to play better, this is not an issue. I know, I've been testing the new leve system since release.

It equals out to lower even SP across leves with no insentive to fight on higher than solo. This means players will get less SP for a single leve at a much higher pace. The 15k you got for 25 mins of D4D is now 15k from 3 leves in half that time. After you finish you leves there is a series of other activities you are supposed to participate in to continue gaining sp.

Yoshi P. said and the Masses cheered..

"Guildleves will no longer be central to FINAL FANTASY XIV." - Yoshi P.

[Preypacer]

People should stop debating with this guy.. There gets to be a point where a persons ignorance of their own short coming makes it impossible to see they are wrong.

Kensei passed that point 10s of pages ago. Every time someone makes a valid point against his claims, he dresses them up differently.

Kensei is determined to cling bitterly to this little crusade of his, ignoring all repeated attempts to clarify and explain the situation to him as it really is, as tested and experienced by many other players. He's not listening. His mind and "ears" are shut tight. He's determined to play the victim card, and continue insisting that Yoshi lied to him, and that's what he's going to do, evidently, until this thread runs out of steam or is (ideally) locked down for being such a pointless and unproductive waste of space.

[Kensei]

Kensei passed that point 10s of pages ago. Every time someone makes a valid point against his claims, he dresses them up differently.

Kensei is determined to cling bitterly to this little crusade of his, ignoring all repeated attempts to clarify and explain the situation to him as it really is, as tested and experienced by many other players. He's not listening. His mind and "ears" are shut tight. He's determined to play the victim card, and continue insisting that Yoshi lied to him, and that's what he's going to do, evidently, until this thread runs out of steam or is (ideally) locked down for being such a pointless and unproductive waste of space.

Says the 12 PGL who has never even experienced what he/she is giving an opinion on. You couldn't answer my last reply to you and you had the guts to talk about cherry picking. You are sad. Blindly believing what everyone is posting without checking for yourself.

I already responded to everything you are repeating here so go read it.

And this is such a pointless and unproductive waste of space that you simply can't stay away

[Elkwood]

Says the 12 PGL who has never even experienced what he/she is giving an opinion on. You couldn't answer my last reply to you and you had the guts to talk about cherry picking. You are sad. Blindly believing what everyone is posting without checking for yourself.

I already responded to everything you are repeating here so go read it.

And this is such a pointless and unproductive waste of space that you simply can't stay away

really so u responded to my last post huh

[Reaujien]

Wow... this QQ-ness is still... QQing?! I'm so glad I spend most of the free time I have to play video games actually ENJOYING playing the game! It must be a gift, and if only I could share it with people like you! *sniff*

This is what he said "I don’t want there to be a huge loss of skill points imposed for dying, or for players to have to grind 5–6 hours a day for 8 months to get to the high ranks. "


It may not be for 8 months but we will now have to do exactly that. Grind groups were very rare before the patch and now it's the only viable option.

...the only viable option. Yeah, I can make up junk statements too, look!

The moon is made out of cheese!

I can see Russia from my house!

Michael Jackson is still alive!

If you're only interested in obtaining the highest ranks overnight go play WoW or Rift or some other non-RPG MMO where the highest levels/ranks are not earned but yet are handed to you on a silver platter. All you've done is pissed and moaned over a much needed re-balancing of this game, and statements from the producer which you obviously have either taken way too literally or completely out of context.

[Kensei]

the only viable option. Yeah, I can make up junk statements too, look!

Viable as in the best SP/hour. There are many other ways to get SP but post-patch grinding parties are currently the fastest option.

All you've done is pissed and moaned over a much needed re-balancing of this game, and statements from the producer which you obviously have either taken way too literally or completely out of context.

I have not pissed or moaned I have merely repeated countless times a simple truth. I took the statements exactly as he meant them. The context was the process of ranking up. SP gains were lowered, the process has been slowed down, ranking up process has been nerfed. How difficult is that to understand?

[AarosLunos]

I have not pissed or moaned I have merely repeated countless times a simple truth. I took the statements exactly as he meant them. The context was the process of ranking up. SP gains were lowered, the process has been slowed down, ranking up process has been nerfed. How difficult is that to understand?

Calling Yoshida a liar when you clearly lack any form or reading comprehension is in fact 'Pissing and moaning'

[AarosLunos]

Nope. I am not whining I pointed a lie by the producer. Whether it was intentional that ranking up slowed down or a development oversight is irrelevant. Other that the lie I am very much pleased with the work Yoshi has done. I mentioned this earlier in the thread.

He never said what you're asserting anyways. You were reading between the lines and horribly failing at it. Either way your point has been completely invalidated several ways. This thread is basically posters countering your failed opinion.

Take this from quote from the Letter from the Producer XII for instance:

In light of guildleves’ repositioning as solo-oriented content, leve link bonuses will be reduced. To make up for this reduction, skill points will be added as a new reward for the benefit of solo adventurers.

At the same time, the objectives of certain guildleves will be adjusted in order to accommodate a system in which difficulty and completion time influence your reward. For example, completing a high-difficulty levequest in a short amount of time will yield greater rewards. Through this we hope to encourage skillful adventuring.

In addition to guildleves, sidequests will also be made to yield skill points upon completion, thus providing players with more avenues for advancement.

He CLEARLY states what was intended in very plainly and this is exactly what we got. A vast majority of the community agrees with this change. Sorry you don't. However its not nearly as dramatic as you feel it is.