SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[Naryl]

Well I was out of the game for 2-3 months and after this patch I tried to enter again. When I left I was rank 42 Pugilist so I logged in and tried some lvl 40 levequests. I soloed them at 3 stars and got 100-180 rank from each enemy and a 5800 rank reward (with favor on) for each leve. My rank needed to rank up was 78k so if you do the math I was able to solo about 56/78k in... 1h?.

Next leve reset I helped a friend who as Conjurer 41 couldn't solo them so well, and we did them in pairs, we were geting the same reward for our own leves (about 5800 rank at the end) and 780-800 for the leves of the other one. We DID notice tho that linking them was a waste, since we were geting the same reward as for no-linked leves. So this time we got about 70-80k rank in maybe 2h.

Now I ask is this nerfed? how was it before this patch then? I mean just with the leves (2h of time needed every 36h) I can rank up almost every 36h, geting from 43 (yes from the patch day to today i ranked up twice already) to 50 in about 1-2 weeks. And this is just with leves, we tried to kill some lvl 50sih mobs and they gave us arround 300-350 rank each one, killing them without problem with pug and conj only.

So now I ask again, do you really want to rank up faster than this? oO

[Hayden]

So let me get this straight? We are upset...because Yoshi P fixed the buggy leve system that we were all totally taking advantage of by extorting every loop hole?

1.18 was a patch filled to the brim with content and a design team's honest effort to give this whiny, entitled and otherwise ungrateful community everything and anything they wanted.

OMHO 1.18 is the first of many patches that will drastically change the game in the direction the PLAYERS voted on when they filled out those surveys.

SP did not get nerfed, the only thing that was nerfed was the cheap loophole that allowed people to gain overly large amounts of sp with almost no effort with out even TRYING to experiences the game at all.

So rather than whine and "rage quit" why not try to play the game? Failing leves and killing the same three mobs over and over again was replaced with imho a better system that once worked out and brought into effect will be a MUCH MORE positive gaming experiences.

[TonyMontana]

So let me get this straight? We are upset...because Yoshi P fixed the buggy leve system that we were all totally taking advantage of by extorting every loop hole?

1.18 was a patch filled to the brim with content and a design team's honest effort to give this whiny, entitled and otherwise ungrateful community everything and anything they wanted.

OMHO 1.18 is the first of many patches that will drastically change the game in the direction the PLAYERS voted on when they filled out those surveys.

SP did not get nerfed, the only thing that was nerfed was the cheap loophole that allowed people to gain overly large amounts of sp with almost no effort with out even TRYING to experiences the game at all.

So rather than whine and "rage quit" why not try to play the game? Failing leves and killing the same three mobs over and over again was replaced with imho a better system that once worked out and brought into effect will be a MUCH MORE positive gaming experiences.

lol really?

[Hayden]

lol really?

really really.

[Abriael]

So let me get this straight? We are upset...because Yoshi P fixed the buggy leve system that we were all totally taking advantage of by extorting every loop hole?

I wouldn't say "we" are upset. A bunch of whiners (most of which are newbies with little or no experience of the leveling curve before) is upset.

lol really?

Yep. Really. I know, that must make you really mad.

[viion]

Yeah, you gave a great example. 760 synth is 5 lvls or more than your current lvl, which will make you fail 10x more. And that will go down easy when you get lvl. Use a normal xp rate like 300-350 and then we talk. I'm sure you can do even your 130 clicks for a lvl right? Everyday. Till lvl 50. Lol what a joke. Like I said, I don't care if you get 100% lvl 50 faster than anyone, just don't play stupid and explaining it was legit which wasnt. This is no a pvp game thank god, so, go get your lvls for all I care. I just don't like jerks to play as I'm cool and smarter , that's why I got there .

So take the synth to 330 and you do 262 Synths, easily do-able and people, do... do it.

Do a bit on 1 class like 90 synths, 90 synths on another 90 on another and bam you have the same exact results. Infact you wouldnt even need to do that. Even at a 300 synth doing 100 synths you get 30k SP and 100 synths would only take me little over 2hrs. That combined with your 100k on another class (or classes) gets your your 130k average a day.

You're just ignorant and seemingly very envious of the people that you have such denial to even think people do craft legit. I dont understand why people play this game atall, i dont understand why people would craft for hours, but i know full well they do.

[Emonzaemon]

lol, I like how you say you were lied to when infact he didn't lie at all he said the PROCESS not the actual gains, silly boy.

The literal process still remains the same, leves reset, you do them, repeat, that hasn't changed. Gains may have changed, but you don't have fatigue anymore so they had to change something, they can't just have you making baller EXP while lifting your ability to do so as much as you want, that'll make people reach level cap quicker get bored quicker and quit quicker.

I also believe someone mentioned you can, infact, obtain EXP in other ways now.

Furthermore, GEEZ, some of you whine a lot. You act like Yoshi isn't trying to make the game better in anyway and is trying to make your free to play experience MISERABLE, god forbid you give the man a chance before you crucify him for making your level up experience not lightning fast. Are you guys shooting for CN page grinding and Abyssea grinding like FFXI or what?

[napalmninja]

A lot of people are saying that the sp is great when you join a group. I think what the op means is sp when you solo. I noticed when soling and killing things my rank or a few levels higher I was getting only half of the sp I got before the patch.

So basically they removed fatigue only to make sp gains as if you have constant fatigue, it seems a little silly to me.

[SuzakuCMX]

A lot of people are saying that the sp is great when you join a group. I think what the op means is sp when you solo. I noticed when soling and killing things my rank or a few levels higher I was getting only half of the sp I got before the patch.

So basically they removed fatigue only to make sp gains as if you have constant fatigue, it seems a little silly to me.

No, he thinks behests were/are the only way to get SP and he doesn't want to grind, solo or party, because he doesn't like it. Furthermore he's refusing to acknowledge that quests give a ton of SP now and that there are guild tasks.

If you read the thread, it's quite clear he has no idea what he's talking about.

[Xmbei]

A lot of people are saying that the sp is great when you join a group. I think what the op means is sp when you solo. I noticed when soling and killing things my rank or a few levels higher I was getting only half of the sp I got before the patch.

So basically they removed fatigue only to make sp gains as if you have constant fatigue, it seems a little silly to me.

No the OP didnt mean solo because He was doing Behest so that is a party of 8 p.u.g. So he isnt solo he might play it that he was experiencing it solo because it was not a premade party but he is grinding out behests and they ruined it in his opinion.