SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[SuzakuCMX]

A lot of people are saying that the sp is great when you join a group. I think what the op means is sp when you solo. I noticed when soling and killing things my rank or a few levels higher I was getting only half of the sp I got before the patch.

So basically they removed fatigue only to make sp gains as if you have constant fatigue, it seems a little silly to me.

No, he thinks behests were/are the only way to get SP and he doesn't want to grind, solo or party, because he doesn't like it. Furthermore he's refusing to acknowledge that quests give a ton of SP now and that there are guild tasks.

If you read the thread, it's quite clear he has no idea what he's talking about.

[Kensei]

No, he thinks behests were/are the only way to get SP and he doesn't want to grind, solo or party, because he doesn't like it.

Oh so now you are blatantly lying about me and putting words in my mouth. A new low for the thread, congrats. I have mentioned this before but you clearly skip pages.

I don't particularly care about behest, I only used to do it pre-patch because it was the fastest sp/hour. Get that into your head and stop making things up.

Neither party grinding, soloing or questing give the same SP/hour as pre-patch. Understand?

Furthermore he's refusing to acknowledge that quests give a ton of SP now and that there are guild tasks.

A ton? 2-3k SP and this is how they go. A quest in gridania for 2.7k SP "Hey go to Mun-Tuy Cellars and kill 8 skeletons" In the time it takes to go there and come back I would have already gotten more SP from plain grinding. But even grinding wouldn't give the same SP/hour I could have gotten pre-patch.

If you read the thread, it's quite clear he has no idea what he's talking about.

Actually you resorting to lying proves it's the other way around.

[SuzakuCMX]

Oh so now you are blatantly lying about me and putting words in my mouth. A new low for the thread, congrats. I have mentioned this before but you clearly skip pages.

I don't particularly care about behest, I only used to do it pre-patch because it was the fastest sp/hour. Get that into your head and stop making things up.

No it wasn't. And quit complaining about grinding being the only way to rank up (which it isn't). It gives a ton of SP, learn how to optimize grinding. Hint hint: some mobs will give you over 300 SP and are incredibly easy to take down with 5-6 people.

Neither party grinding, soloing or questing give the same SP/hour as pre-patch. Understand?

Yeah I understand, questing, not levequesting, and part grinding give way more SP/hour now.

A ton? 2-3k SP and this is how they go. A quest in gridania for 2.7k SP "Hey go to Mun-Tuy Cellars and kill 8 skeletons" In the time it takes to go there and come back I would have already gotten more SP from plain grinding. But even grinding wouldn't give the same SP/hour I could have gotten pre-patch.

Main. Story. Quests. You can level up once off of them. Plus there's over 100 quests in the game right now, they take about 15 minutes to do and they give 1-3k SP. You must be lazy.

Actually you resorting to lying proves it's the other way around.

Yeah, right, Mr. "Behests were the best SP before patch."

EDIT: Oh and crafting leves are ridiculous now. I was getting 200-300 SP per synth as a R17 Weaver doing one of the R1 leves.

EDIT2: Oh and congratz, after 20,000 views you finally broke 100 likes.