Hey, Sincerely Thank You SE for easing up on Coil

[Ehayte]

This is very interesting - but I think the best suggestion has already been made: Having 3 versions. Story, Hard, Extreme (Savage). They need to give some better rewards for Savage though. It should look like:

Story - No reward other than the gil you get for completing the quest.
Hard - Current rewards (in 2.2 i110 gear)
Savage - Materia that can be melded into Allagan Gear for like +7 of a secondary stat, or +3 of a primary.

[Songi]

I think most of the people that are against the nerf is not that they think the nerf is bad but think that is too soon. Coil still relevant for gear. All the people crying that they just want to see the story should also wait until gear is not relevant

There's not much difference between coil and token gear at this point. Same ilvl and main stats. I don't see why people are fussing over gear that doesn't do anything special whatsoever. I'd totally understand if the coil gear had set bonuses or added effects but there's none of that here. Just let everyone get through coil, see the story and move on.

[Sadana]

Maybe this is weird, but I'd rather they get rid of OHKO moves (high damage only pls) AND the auto echo buff. :/ I don't wanna see that echo until after a few wipes. But since latency is such a thing for my FC, any ohko moves are more frustrating than fun.

[Myrhn]

There's not much difference between coil and token gear at this point. Same ilvl and main stats. I don't see why people are fussing over gear that doesn't do anything special whatsoever. I'd totally understand if the coil gear had set bonuses or added effects but there's none of that here. Just let everyone get through coil, see the story and move on.

Some people like the stats froms coil, others like the design so w/e the reason is mean that gear still relevant. As I said if people just want to see the story they could wait until the gear is not relevant.

[RecklessLife]

The thing is that you can remove the Echo buff. I'm not an advocate of the Echo buff either, but at least it's 'optional'. If you're getting this lower difficulty, I want to at least see a difference in gear, which has been suggested earlier.

[YakushiHinata]

I am gonna have to disagree with easying up on the coil mechanics and how fight works, that said I dont really mind that they add echo since its a buff you can remove yourself if you want to experience the fight how it was intended back in the day.

This game is very casual, how would you feel if say you were struggling with something, after weeks or even months of working with a team of friends finally beating that content, that feeling, the excitement, then you meet a person who beat it after its nerf'd and have no sense of accomplishment but walking around with same loot drops as you.

This game got alot of content that caters to the casual and average player, coil is the only hardcore content and some people play just for raiding purposes, and when someone who got 90% of the game to enjoy themself with, Crystal Tower, Zodiac relic quests etc, now coming over and asking to make story-mode Coil, is like Orphan Oliver asking "May I have some more?".

[Kashiro_Mayuri]

This entire game is designed to cater to casual players, except for coil. Coil is literally the only thing that's keeping semi-hardcore and hardcore players in this game. If they dumb down on the difficulty of the raid content a lot of players would be extremely displeased. I personally wouldn't mind if they'd release a more casual version of coil, but only if they were to release it several months after the normal coil. They shouldn't release a story mode version of coil simultaneously to the normal version. New coil turns is like christmas for raiders. 90% of the content is this game is aimed towards casuals, so let our 10% remain untouched. And IF they were to release a story mode version, you honestly shouldn't be rewarded with loot for clearing that version.

If for whatever reason you can't participate in clearing new coil turns on release you should just accept the fact that you're going to have to wait for a while, while the raiding community does their thing.

[Seth_K]

The thing is that you can remove the Echo buff. I'm not an advocate of the Echo buff either, but at least it's 'optional'. If you're getting this lower difficulty, I want to at least see a difference in gear, which has been suggested earlier.

You can remove it by simply right clicking on the buff and it goes poof.

[RecklessLife]

You can remove it by simply right clicking on the buff and it goes poof.

That's what I said.

[TeaTimeBear]

This game is very casual, how would you feel if say you were struggling with something, after weeks or even months of working with a team of friends finally beating that content, that feeling, the excitement, then you meet a person who beat it after its nerf'd and have no sense of accomplishment but walking around with same loot drops.

To be honest with you, those struggling now will struggle even after the nerf; unless they completely water down the fights ala AK style. If you don't know any of the mechanics you're not progressing anywhere. It will still require time to learn how the fights work.