Cash shop confirmed

[Fyrebrand]

lol @ people against cash shop yet have the deluxe edition

lol @ people who are for the cash shop because it's "vanity only" and therefore somehow does not matter -- yet, without fail, they are always the ones with fancy hats, glasses, or other unique gear skins they worked to earn in-game

[tocsin]

lol @ people who are for the cash shop because it's "vanity only" and therefore somehow does not matter -- yet, without fail, they are always the ones with fancy hats, glasses, or other unique gear skins they worked to earn in-game

Honestly, there was a wonderful woman who got turned into a meme that once said "I ain't got time for that!"

I have a limited amount of time to play. would I rather spend my time getting this fancy hat and gear, or would I rather make some gil, and practice for ScoB? Ill pay $10 dollars for my looks, thank you.

in other news, 1125 posts? really people? #nolife

[DefendPopPunk]

in other news, 1125 posts? really people? #nolife

But...you're posting here...too....smh

[tocsin]

But...you're posting here...too....smh

I know, and I resemble my own remark. )

I just stir the pot, like a witch with their brew, waiting for it to explode.

Hey, this thread has gotten me through 3 12 hour shifts this week with entertainment.

[LittleArrow]

I know, and I resemble my own remark. )

I just stir the pot, like a witch with their brew, waiting for it to explode.

Because that's a healthy thing to do to a community you're apart of >.>;

[whoopeeragon]

Because that's a healthy thing to do to a community you're apart of >.>;

And so is trying to organise a collective abusing and harassing of people who use the cash-shop ingame.

[tocsin]

And so is trying to organise a collective abusing and harassing of people who use the cash-shop ingame.

There is a lot of both fearmongering and harassment in this thread. point is, SE decided that cash shop was a profitable thing to add, and the community seems to be pretty evenly divided on the issue.

This is like republicans vs democrats, except the republicans are the people voting against cash shop, and the democrats want it. people with things, vs people without them.

Wow, post limit! I havent reached that since turning 50! thanks guys for keeping me entertained everyone!

idk man, wouldn't it be the other way around with republicans wanting freedom of market and democrats wanting free hand outs?

I'm kidding. I still detest SE double dipping. Remember to vote kids.

I was figuring republicans wanting exclusivity, locking things behind both time and skill walls (time being the one factor that no amount of hard work can surmount), vs democrats wanting to be able to access everything no matter who it is, just by paying into the system.

[ShinigamiZero]

in other news, 1125 posts? really people? #nolife

For implying they have no life I find it hilarious that you've posted endless amount of times in this thread. I wonder how having a life implies constant stalking and posting in this thread. lol

[Negotiator]

Honestly, there was a wonderful woman who got turned into a meme that once said "I ain't got time for that!"

I have a limited amount of time to play. would I rather spend my time getting this fancy hat and gear, or would I rather make some gil, and practice for ScoB? Ill pay $10 dollars for my looks, thank you.

in other news, 1125 posts? really people? #nolife

YES! please add scob skins with no stats, that shouldn't bother anyone right?

[Fyrebrand]

"I ain't got time for that!"

I have a limited amount of time to play.

in other news, 1125 posts? really people? #nolife

Last I checked, everyone has 24 hours in their day. How you choose to spend it is your business. When you say "I have a limited amount of time to play," what you really mean is that you are not willing to allot more than a certain amount of time to a game. If you choose to work longer hours and accumulate more money, good for you. If you want to spend more time with family/friends, great. I applaud it. That is your choice, and I doubt you will regret it.

And heck, maybe the game is too grindy. It's a well-known flaw of the MMO genre. After all, they don't charge a subscription fee so you can blast through the content in a couple of months and then quit. However, installing a cash shop into the game does nothing to address this concern.

When it comes down to it, you knowingly got yourself invested in a very time-consuming game. Instead of expecting all other players to have the same comfortable living wage as you, or expecting the game to radically shift its revenue model and reduce the value of the base subscription, have you considered that perhaps it is you who needs to adjust? Do you, someone who admitted does not have time to invest in getting prestigious cosmetic items for their own sake, need to be the talk of the town in a virtual world? Do you think the hallmark of fair, quality game design is expressed where success and prominence can be bought for cash?

I get it, time is valuable. But all our time is valuable, not just the time of the wealthy, or those gullible enough not to value of their own money, or those who don't care what sort of message their patronage of a cash shop sends to game developers.

Time is important. Money is important. But however you balance those resources, success in any game should be won through playing that game, and not through simply throwing money at bad design.

Money does not fall from trees. The vanity you get in-game or in the store was worked for either way.

I agree. And it was worked for, because it is important to people. People value that stuff. Too many of those who support the cash shop are telling us that we shouldn't complain, because "it's vanity only" and not pay-to-win. Except, vanity/cosmetic items are a form of "winning." It has tons of value, possibly as much as having better stats. If it weren't valuable or important, there would be no vanity items in any cash shops, in any games. I am just fed up with the hypocrisy of those who tell me "it's just cosmetic-only, it doesn't matter," while sporting fancy gear, mounts, etc.