Quote Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk View Post
SE has it made. They are going to charge us for items we could have had the chance to get as paying subscribers, yet not only are people accepting the practice, they're defending it. That's not a bad position to be in, since not every company's customers react that way to cash grabs.
Haven't you heard? "It's just business." "They gotta put food on the table, this is just a great way for fans to give them added support!" Apparently, Square Enix is both a for-profit company and a charity case.

Yet, someone who merely buys the game and pays their subscription is accused of expecting a "free ride" if they don't like the idea of a cash shop. If you are so against it, "then just ignore the cash shop and vote with your wallet." However, if we do vote with our wallets and unsubscribe from the game, that is "pathetic" and "blowing things out of proportion."

"FFXIV is not a WoW clone." "Stop suggesting features I don't like and go back to WoW." But as soon as we suggest that games with subscription fees should not be adding a cash shop: "WoW is a sub-based game, and it has a cash shop." As if that is some kind of excuse, and WoW is now the model all games should be following.

The mental gymnastics some of these people put themselves through to defend their favourite corporation is astounding.

Quote Originally Posted by Sheer View Post
It really comes down to vanity pets/mounts or a flat raise to subscription. I'm fine with the former.
Case in point. Where on earth did you get the idea that a subscription increase was even being considered, or was ever a possibility? Has any MMORPG ever randomly raised its subscription? And is that how you convince yourself that a cash shop is a good idea? Because you can imagine something worse?