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    Player
    vientown's Avatar
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    Stuart Nisbet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stignodding View Post
    Thank you for your reply, and I can see the amount of heart you put in it, but what the actual hell are you talking about??
    It's really simple. If people leave because they don't the cash shop, that means SE is generating less revenue from the game overall, which means they have to add more things into the cash shop. It's a slippery slope. Even if you like the Y'shtola minions, will you like it when they add their 'Superbowl 2015 celebration!' minion? When they release tacky items that break the lore and try to grab your attention at every turn? His analogy works perfectly, but I can see how someone who justifies anti-consumer practices would have a hard time understanding basic logic.
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    Nera Mistdancer
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    Omega
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    Good job Square... The middle finger to the vanity-centered part of your P2P playerbase is the way to go.

    Of course, as it's not raid content it doesn't matter. /sarcasm

    I left GW2 and many others because of that, you know? I'm not willing to pay a sub and have this shit too. I'm on the line of leaving now, so the next thing that I don't like will be the last, you can take my word for it. I'll vote with my wallet, as that's what you seem to care about.
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    Player Fayto's Avatar
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    Faye Saotome
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    Good job Square... The middle finger to the vanity-centered part of your P2P playerbase is the way to go.

    Of course, as it's not raid content it doesn't matter. /sarcasm

    I left GW2 and many others because of that, you know? I'm not willing to pay a sub and have this shit too. I'm on the line of leaving now, so the next thing that I don't like will be the last, you can take my word for it. I'll vote with my wallet, as that's what you seem to care about.
    You do know your sub fee is just to renew your license to play the game, right? Nothing else.
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    Yshnal's Avatar
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    Nera Mistdancer
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    Omega
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayto View Post
    You do know your sub fee is just to renew your license to play the game, right? Nothing else.
    Do you know that if I feel that what pay VS what I get, or if I feel that my money is not well invested in the game, I can stop paying, right?
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    Aria Erabith
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    Malboro
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    Miner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    Good job Square... The middle finger to the vanity-centered part of your P2P playerbase is the way to go.

    Of course, as it's not raid content it doesn't matter. /sarcasm

    I left GW2 and many others because of that, you know? I'm not willing to pay a sub and have this shit too. I'm on the line of leaving now, so the next thing that I don't like will be the last, you can take my word for it. I'll vote with my wallet, as that's what you seem to care about.
    They'll make far more money off this than they will lose from people "voting with their wallet". Also how much was your monthly sub in GW2? Those games have to make money somewhere, it's not a charity.
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    Beatrix Hero
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    I am not really a fan of this. I pay a monthly subscription because I support the game, and in return expect this sort of stuff to be included. Oh well, every game company seems to head in this direction now: day 1 dlc, on game content locked behind pay dlc, capcom style micro-transactions, etc... Hopefully enough people decide not to buy this and they rethink this cash-shop stuff.
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    Stig Nodding
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    personally, browsing a pay shop is something fun and free to do when I'm bored.
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    Brynhilder leader of Blood is Power! Where would I be without the family I call my FC and the brothers and sisters in my static? Well, not making amazing memories and just having a good old time would be my first guess. This game is amazing.

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    Velvet Velour
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stignodding View Post
    personally, browsing a pay shop is something fun and free to do when I'm bored.
    Go browse online retail stores then. Something like this has no place in an already pay-to-play game.

    How would you feel if you paid for, say, a magazine subscription, but they decided to tear out some of the pages or articles and charge extra for them because they're "optional"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mholito View Post
    Do you have any proof that it was ever planned to available in-game?
    IT'S ALREADY IN THE GAME. If it already exists in the game, it can be made available in an instant if they wanted to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stignodding View Post
    you guys saying this is gonna make you leave, please do, you pollute the fun community that drives this game. Take your "my game opened a store" problems to another game.
    Yeah, extortion sure is fun...
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    Last edited by Amused; 10-20-2014 at 07:49 AM.

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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    Go browse online retail stores then. Something like this has no place in an already pay-to-play game.
    This has actually been in console games for quite some time now. Take Xbox for example, you have to pay the monthly xbox live fee to play online, you have to buy your games, now then the games almost always have extra dlc outfits, weapons, ect. If you look at SE games there was a ton of optional stuff in FFXIII-2 and Lightning Returns you could buy on the store.
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    Mili Brand
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    Go browse online retail stores then. Something like this has no place in an already pay-to-play game.

    How would you feel if you paid for, say, a magazine subscription, but they decided to tear out some of the pages or articles and charge extra for them because they're "optional"?
    Your analogy is wrong. You buy a magazine subscription, you get the magazine. If they were to tear out pages and charge them, that'd be like SE tearing out Primal instances and charging you to be able to fight them.
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