Cash shop confirmed

[DCILuther]

My only concern about the cash shop is that I hope the developers don't shift their focus on cash shop items/vanity instead of game content. They should focus on making quality game content. I can't find the link or the interview with Yoshi-P where he says something along the line of how F2P and P2P developers make content in their respective games. He implies that F2P "developers" focus more on cash shop items rather than in-game content, whereas other developers (P2P/subscription based) focus on developing actual game content.

[tocsin]

Wow, this thread has really derailed in the past 24 hours!

When did we start talking psychology?

I suppose that I should be glad people moved on from spewing nonsense and misinformation about cash shop ruining the game, but darn it, that was my nightly entertainment!

edit- and before people start jumping on me for it, im just going to say that if I get my entertainment from the night from watching people vomit all over their keyboards over minor changes to their way of life, that's my own right. it is pretty funny to watch, like car crash videos.

[Teryaani]

*myquote*Snip because these forums are hateful*myquote*.

"Hateful". I disagree with you and say why and I'm hateful? Whatevs. Or were you calling the forum itself hateful? If so, I agree. That post limit thing is monstrous.


On the upside, I can post at least once! Sorry about having to post in the old post. Thanks for putting up with referring back to the old post.

** stance on seasonal stuff snipped **

I'm mixed on the seasonal stuff in that I get why people are upset that it's going from a vendor during the event to the cash shop but I also get that it was probably a temporary thing last year <shrug>. It's the part of the cash shop that leaves me a bit...meh.

I just don't think that two things that have very different purposes for existing should be conflated. Are you telling me that if something is up for purchase, but people purchase it for a different reason than was intended when it was made available for purchase that becomes the reason it was made available for said purchase?

You're talking about the merch, one sec and I'll get there. Can we agree that the CE is equivalent? The only thing the collectors edition adds to the game are vanity. It's global, but it's extra vanity content for extra cost over a standard sub. A minion or mount from the cash shop is extra vanity for extra cost over the standard sub. It's not required to play, it's purely extra, it's vanity, and it's a one-time extra cost over a sub.

For the merch, as I mentioned before, I think <opinion here> that enough people purchase these just for the in game item that it an equivalent. Sure some people genuinely want the CD or the book over the minion, but enough of us are after the in game item that it is equivalent from that point of view. If you are one of those people that wanted the art book and toss the code to your cat, then you won't see it this way, but I do. If you're one of those people then I will never convince you of this, and not knowing the true motives of the buyer I remain unconvinced that I'm wrong. Again, this is a gut feeling thing and nobody has any data one way or the other to make a case for it.

<not directed at you RaddCuban - post conservation happening>

I'm not getting why all the dung throwing over this at all. Can the cash store go all pear-shaped? Possibly. Do we really know if it will? No. Right now it's just conjecture from everyone, me included. We only have a small amount of data that was shown at the live show to work off of.

The original question this thread posed - "how will development reconcile the cash shop with player demands for in-game vanity content?" (am I paraphrasing that right saeedaisspecial?) is one that SE absolutely needs to come to terms with and when in doubt, lean toward making it in-game. You all may hate Blizzard being brought up, but up until recently they actually did this part right.

[RaddCuban]

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The forums, the actual software, are hateful because of the post limit and the character limit some of us suffer from. Totally unnacceptable in my book. And no worries, I've had my own issue to deal with as I just said.

Snip

They never said that it was temporary. They never even hinted at it. They just did it and acted like it was totally normal/standard practice just as it was/is in FFXI. It is well within my rights as a customer to upset and concerned at such a sudden change in practices.

Gods damned character limit!
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[Moqi]

Free? I'm sorry, what do you think the monthly sub is for? That reasoning is ridiculous.

Lol some of the replies on this thread are wild. Gotta get me a copy of this free version of ffxiv people think I should be grateful for.

[Daweism]

Do you get banned for RMT if you buy from the cash shop?

[Darkshade]

Similar thread on the JP forum for those interested.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...1%84%E3%81%A6?

今後追加されるであろうクラフト産おしゃれ装備の質が落ちないことを切に願います。

Google: "I hope sincerely that the quality of crafted fashionable equipment that will be added in the future does not fall."

[whoopeeragon]

Similar thread on the JP forum for those interested.

Well, at least from that particular quote, they're acting mature about it and not assuming doom and gloom weather. They actually hope for the best, not the worst.

[Tupsi]

Well, at least from that particular quote, they're acting mature about it and not assuming doom and gloom weather. They actually hope for the best, not the worst.

(Nor continually attacking people either based on username or for stating the same sentiment in a different manner.)

[Sho86]