Booing when Coil2 Nerf was announced

[Darsho]

They nerfed coil 1 mechanics before putting it into duty finder, am I really the only one who knew beforehand that the same would happen to coil 2? >_>

[NorthernLadMSP]

They nerfed coil 1 mechanics before putting it into duty finder, am I really the only one who knew beforehand that the same would happen to coil 2? >_>

No, I'm sure most people knew this would happen. But, if they couldn't complain on a forum, what else would they do with their lives?

[Maero]

The worst part about it is, its not even hard. Learning the fights is hard but once you learn them, its cake mode.

Could not agree more with this

Thing is nerfs (yes dungeon nerfs happened as well , cough, Ak) now coil nerfs and having implemented echo for Primals.
And let's not forget how easy they made it for new players to 50 to get the soldiery gear, so i can understand why some people would feel frustrated. If at all echo should never have been introduced for the Primals. That said however i myself am not my any means a hardcore player so this will not really effect me much

[hallena]

I like how Yoshi-P and the other guy said not to look up who the bosses were in the new coils, to find out myself.


Would love to, but you know, you kinda have that stupid lockout in place so I can't do it with my buddies. I'll have to wait possibly 6 months or more to see them, thanks SE.

6 months? They said 2.45 not heavensward

[Velox]

You know you could just, I don't know, maybe turn echo off before you fight? Seriously, not sure if 99% of the people in this thread are ignorant but all buffs in this game, including the echo, can be manually removed. Sure some of the mechanics had to be changed to accommodate the DF (where you can get party combinations that prevent dealing with mechanics) but for the most part the BCoB is very much the same. Just blow the dust off your i70-i90 gear and click the echo buff off and you can experience more of a challenge.

[Audacity]

I honestly don't think that coil should be nerfed anything past the current 1-5 turns.

Many people who complain about it being too hard seem like they haven't really tried. Or they have a solution already in their problem. Usually that all their friends are stuck on T5 as well. So get those friends and go learn the fight together.

God forbid you have to put some effort into something to progress.

I don't really care either way, I prefer to learn fights and love the challenge of coil.

[Gucci_Charms]

I honestly don't think that coil should be nerfed anything past the current 1-5 turns.

Many people who complain about it being too hard seem like they haven't really tried. Or they have a solution already in their problem. Usually that all their friends are stuck on T5 as well. So get those friends and go learn the fight together.

God forbid you have to put some effort into something to progress.

I don't really care either way, I prefer to learn fights and love the challenge of coil.

What this guy said. Apparently overcoming a challenge by putting actual effort is not fun for new players.

You shouldn't have to make stuff challenging yourself. People are sick of bad people complaining and wanting to be spoonfed instead of putting some time into it and getting good. The people who want challenging content get 4 boss every 6 months while casuals have literally everything else in the game and even that is not enough for them.

so fucking what? people put time and effort to get their high allagan armor. So should you

So true. Nerfing content and using Echo buff isn't going to help bad players get better. I've seen enough smartass players who beat T5 with max echo buff thinking they were all pro for SCOB only to be stuck in forever T6 life now.

Creepy

LOL @ your sad instigation attempts yet again. Everywhere I've posted you've tried to do the same thing. Keep stalking me then report to forum Moderators that my responses to you are inappropriate to try and get me banned. It's clearly obvious you're obsessed with me on here (aka creepy).

Proof for Forum Moderators and Fellow Forum Friends:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...fan-fest/page2

You seriously are creeping me out now. It's not a coincidence at all as shown in the link above. You're the only poster I've seen going out of their way to troll the same person continuously on here.

[NyarukoW]

... Everywhere I've posted you've tried to do the same thing. Keep stalking me then report to forum Moderators t...

Nobody is stalking you. Everywhere? I don't even want to go where you go, but if you are going to spew hatred and contempt to newer players and newbies, I am not going to stay silent. I don't know what universe you are on, but reporting you? Your points don't make any sense in anyway other than in your own universe. If you got reported it is because you managed to piss a lot people off. I am all for free speech and I don't tell people to be quiet like you do.

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You shouldn't have to make stuff challenging yourself.

Why not? Just like a new player stepping it up, goes from Haukke Manor to Brayflox from level 28 to level 32. Everyone always had to increase the challenge on their own. If you want challenge there is savage mode, and with 2.4 there will be final coil. You can turn off echo too. Or better yet pick up a group of newer player and newbies and coach them thru. You should take on the real challenge of recruiting organizing and training people.

People are sick of bad people complaining and wanting to be spoonfed instead of putting some time into it and getting good.

This is such a strawman. And who are you calling "bad" people? The 99% of the player base that hasn't cleared T9 because they are still trying overcome the logistics and organization challenges for building statics and scheduling commitments? People that started later on in the game, some people may even have start yesterday, are they bad? Should they be stuck forever? T5 in its current state is not spoonfed and people are putting in time right now to learn T5 and earn their clear. I help people in my FC and my friend's FC clear T5 routinely, and that is usually only done after the people have pugged and failed so many time that they've gotten to dreadknights. We help those players get their clear that they have more than put int their due.

The people who want challenging content get 4 boss every 6 months while casuals have literally everything else in the game and even that is not enough for them.

This is such a misrepresentation of the facts. I'll just quote myself:

... People clearing T9 now have the whole game already and is taking that fact for granted. The people without statics can't even realistically attempt T6 more than once or twice at best. So Who is being excluded?

With final coil you are getting 4 more, and the rest of the players base will always be 4 short in comparison which is to say thet DO NOT have the whole game, it is just that they will not be excluded forever. 6 months after SCOB, they can finally get a reasonable shot at it, just like T5 is now.

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while casuals have literally everything else in the game and even that is not enough for them.

And the people that cleared T9 already, they do NOT have everything else? They got them too, somehow selective memory choose to forget about them? And just what "is not enough for them". They earn their stuff by being patient, waiting the 6 months until it become for accessible. They do NOT deserve to have it denied to them forever.

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... creepy...

If you haven't seen Nyaruko or the second seaon Nyaruko W, reference:
http://hero.wikia.com/wiki/Nyarlathotep_%28Nyaruko%29
you should know that Nyaruko is the "Nyarlathotep, the Smiling Creeping Chaos" and creepy is actually a compliment, but I am not stalking you because you are NOT Mahiro.

[NorthernLadMSP]

It's clearly obvious you're obsessed with me on here (aka creepy).

Your ego is clearly overblown. You're claiming that some random person on a forum (and on a different server, no less) is obsessed with you just because they have a different view than yours and state so in a thread?

I feel embarassed for you right now.

[Makado]

It really doesn't matter if they get echo. The filthy casuals will continue to be massacred in droves and Raflessiah, Melasuine, Avatar and Nael with continue to lick their amateur casual blood from the corpses.