ninja gears

[Radacci]

the only thing that makes sense in this, is that nin will be dex, only so that there won't be any competition between 3 jobs. so since BRD doesn't have any competition, they give nin, dex stuff.
otherwise, everyone that argues that NIN should have dex, because other games/they are dextrous...well so is MNK, and they are str...IN THIS GAME, because MELEE use str...and NIN is melee (BRD isn't, cause melee means close range)
ppl argue that it was simpler to add dex to mnk gear...but it would be simpler to not change any gear, and just have nin/mnk share the existing gear, unchanged. and then nin get their own sets, from 2.4+
so if nin is dex, i think the only reason for it is to reduce competition, between melee classes. but then again, drg/mnk have seperate sets anyway, even if they both are str. and it's not like they haven't introduced new sets, that are just recolored versions of other armors; so they could just have recolored mnk stuff, and made it nin exclusive. but i guess they might want to minimize the nr of sets?
they also said that ppl that are mainly melee, will have an easy transition, because nin use pgl/lnc, but it will be rough transition, unless you have dex accessories also.
well we'll see...
dex for nin, is still stupid, aside from the gear-sharing aspect.

[Edli]

2.0 was not a simple expansion it was a reset of the game indeed the rule change, you do this sort of change to an extension not a patch.

I don't think is a big deal that they do it in a patch too. Yeah there may be some confusion for the first week till people get used to it but at least for years to come new players will not get confused on why Ninja is not dex based.

What I would have liked to see though was something more unique for ninja. Every class has two primary attributes, one of which is always vit. Ninja could have had str and dex. It would fit their description well, deadly but fragile so has to rely on stealthy moves and avoiding attacks. The high risk high reward class.

[silentwindfr]

I don't think is a big deal that they do it in a patch too. Yeah there may be some confusion for the first week till people get used to it but at least for years to come new players will not get confused on why Ninja is not dex based.

What I would have liked to see though was something more unique for ninja. Every class has two primary attributes, one of which is always vit. Ninja could have had str and dex. It would fit their description well, deadly but fragile so has to rely on stealthy moves and avoiding attacks. The high risk high reward class.

no clearly not! i was monk in the V1 the dual stat str/int was really a pain, never ever ever again dual stats, believe me it's too bad.

Ignoring Ninja for the moment. I for one am happy that Thief (it's still thief to me, damnit) isn't going to be a STR based class. That would just have been all kinds of wrong.

i will be blunt, a stats don't definit a class, it's the gameplay and the feeling of the class... i highly doubt they did decide to make it dex for please people, but more because, like i did said they will not have a lot of class dex based!

[Radacci]

I don't think is a big deal that they do it in a patch too. Yeah there may be some confusion for the first week till people get used to it but at least for years to come new players will not get confused on why Ninja is not dex based.

What I would have liked to see though was something more unique for ninja. Every class has two primary attributes, one of which is always vit. Ninja could have had str and dex. It would fit their description well, deadly but fragile so has to rely on stealthy moves and avoiding attacks. The high risk high reward class.

that would make them squishier than casters...you'd have less than 2500hp, with ilv110 and you'd die from every unavoidable AOE, like primal LB, or T8-9 stuff; without vit, you wouldn't even survive titanHM stomps.
every class avoids all avoidable attacks anyway, so i don't see why nin would get special treatment for doing what everyone else is already doing.
dont expect any high risk/reward jobs, in this game...the closest thing you'll get, is being tank.

[Warlyx]

because competition is no valid answer because , no1 takes more than 2 melees to a full party ,and sometimes u bring only 1.

even if NIN was STR u will only fight against one or none...

however now partys can use a party w/o STR at all... 2 tank 2 heals NIN BRD BLM SMN

nins are going to use melee LB right? or are going to use brd/healer one?

[Aegis]

Ignoring Ninja for the moment. I for one am happy that Thief (it's still thief to me, damnit) isn't going to be a STR based class. That would just have been all kinds of wrong.

[Lord_Zlatan]

and her I was hoping it would be INT... :/

[Velhart]

And no rule is ever set in stone in a MMO, an ever changing game. 2.0 was the perfect example. I would rather they fix their past mistakes now for a game that may last for 7 more years then leave them untouched for the sake of whatever.

It is always fine to change the rules if it is in the benefit of improving the game. Let me ask, does changing the meaning of STR/DEX to have it "make sense" good for the game in the long run? Answer is, who knows? Right now it is just safe to assume that STR for melee and DEX for ranged DPS means nothing now and a stat proc is whatever devs want it to be. Taking a simple concept and putting needless complexity in. If devs have a good reason, I am all aboard. As it looks right now, it only makes sense in a aesthetics sense only.

[Edli]

It is always fine to change the rules if it is in the benefit of improving the game. Let me ask, does changing the meaning of STR/DEX to have it "make sense" good for the game in the long run?

Yes it does because "makes sense" is the best reason you can have for a change. There is nothing convoluted about the term dexterity, the word means something. When I think about rogue and ninja dexterity is what comes in my mind not brute strength.

[SinisterIsBack]

NO, what he was saying is that Ninja will use 2.3 and before mnk gear but come 2.4 it will have its own dex gear. At least that's what I took from it