Cash shop confirmed

[Edli]

It was one of the major draw cards for me too

It actually was. People here say "but everyone else is doing it". The reason why FFXIV ended up a success was exactly because SE didn't do what everyone else was doing when it came to these things.

When 1.0 launched a lot of respect for SE was lost, from me too. Everyone was waiting for SE to do what every one else was doing. Release a sub MMO, it ends up not being that fun and people leave. Turn it f2p and slap a cash shop to it to try and milk as much as you can. That was what we were expecting from them because SE was no better than others. What they did though was unique, they decided to completely remake the game because when a game is not fun is not fun whether is sub or f2p. That action won them my respect back. They didn't do what everyone else was doing.

The other thing was that their game didn't have a cash shop like every one else had. Another huge plus. So saying "everyone else is doing" is not really a compliment. It puts this company into the same level as everyone else in the MMO industry, which does not have a lot of respect from me as a whole.

[RiverTams]

I dont know what people mean by accessible. A lot of items that are not cash shop which are vanity are far from accessible to players, all because of their horrible drop rates or amount of money that needs to be farmed.
I'm glad for the cash shop.

[ShinigamiZero]

I dont know what people mean by accessible. A lot of items that are not cash shop which are vanity are far from accessible to players, all because of their horrible drop rates or amount of money that needs to be farmed.
I'm glad for the cash shop.

That gives people something to strive for to attain and EARN. I don't want to be handed down items with zero effort just cause you think an item is too hard to attain. My subscription is going towards additional content, not for devs to put towards exclusive items that require additional money.

[Yshnal]

A question for those defending SE on this: If 2.4 came out with a second Coil-like raid, and they told us "hey guys, Final Coil is here, and you have this other super amazing raid for you to enjoy too! But you have to pay 10€ to unlock it", would you be fine too? And before you bring up that currently there's a lot of vanity and just a single Coil-like raid, vanity items also cost a very small fraction of the resources that a raid does.

And now this one for SE: Will those premium cash shop vanity items also have clipping issues or unpolished/weird-looking animations (yes beast tribe mounts, I'm looking at you)? If not, why don't you use that time to fix/improve the ones that we've already paid? Thank you.

[RiverTams]

so buying an item with rl money isnt earning it? what?

You guys are overreacting. They arent suddenly putting all content into the cash shop.

[Fornix]

The money from the cash shop will go more items for the cash shop. It will not go into further game development, look who's being delusional.

Cash shop items usually tend to be simple, vanity item only objects. Nothing more than a model. Often even just a rehash from previous models, with perhaps a little recoloring. Or not even, such as the prior event items they've announced. There's very little funding needed to go into more items for the cash shop.

It is much more likely that cash shop proceedings will go into further game development by Square Enix. Final Fantasy XV has had a long development history, it may use some additional funding. Kingdom Hearts III development may benefit from it. The Tomb Raider marketing campaign can benefit from a more profitable SE. And of course development of FFXIV itself may benefit from it.

It's simply how the industry works. People want AAA-titles with multi-million development budgets for a minimal price. The industry said fine. However, additional proceedings will have to be obtained elsewhere. And vanity + DLC has been shown to be a very succesful and profitable route to take.

[RiverTams]

I'm all out for supporting a cash shop with items like name change tickets, unlimited amount of fantasia potions, dresses, minions. But not playable-content. And I'm sure they meant a purely cosmetic shop.
Now, what they need to do is remove retainers from being an extra dollar a month. Thats exploiting the system.

[ShinigamiZero]

Cash shop items usually tend to be simple, vanity item only objects. Nothing more than a model. Often even just a rehash from previous models, with perhaps a little recoloring. Or not even, such as the prior event items they've announced. There's very little funding needed to go into more items for the cash shop.

I don't think a Sleipnir mount is anything near to what you described.

[Fornix]

A question for those defending SE on this: If 2.4 came out with a second Coil-like raid, and they told us "hey guys, Final Coil is here, and you have this other super amazing raid for you to enjoy too! But you have to pay 10€ to unlock it", would you be fine too? And before you bring up that currently there's a lot of vanity and just a single Coil-like raid, vanity items also cost a very small fraction of the resources that a raid does.

It's called Heavensward and will probably cost somewhere in the range of 30 - 50€ to unlock it. In my case, primarily for the new raids.

15 - 20 years ago people QQ'ed about such expansion releases to games as well, just like the current topic is filled with it. However, in due time people will come to accept it. Just like as to how most have little problems with expansion packs these days.

[Orbiaus]

so buying an item with rl money isnt earning it? what?

You guys are overreacting. They arent suddenly putting all content into the cash shop.

No it's not earning it.