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  1. #271
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catsby View Post
    They may just try to sell dumb little conveniences such as extra inventory space, fantasia, or a free teleport crystal but chances are it will be glamour pieces. You might not think this is bad right now but in truth it's severely damaging to the game over time. With every glamour piece that is added to a cash shop it's 1 less added to a drop pool, crafting log or NPC vendor and that's 1 less bit of incentive you have to engage in that content. The direction of the game also tends to get greedy because players give in and buy everything. Eventually you have pieces of gear that look better than what you can earn by playing.
    Agreed. It's a very slippery slope.
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  2. #272
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    Doesn't really matter at this point. Let them unsub, it doesn't change the fact that the shop is coming regardless and the hard headed that can't seem to get what an optional service is. People have larger problems if they are sitting her complaining over random vanity items that have no effect on anything in the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphe View Post
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    The game is 100% available to you. You can play it and all the content it has, no problem. Want the shiny mount now? Pay for it. There are more mounts in the game you can ride then the one in the shop. Again, optional.

    As everyone else who has their head on straight has said, it's coming regardless. Speak with your money and unsub. We really don't care because, for the 15th time, it doesn't effect the game. You guys forget this is a business before it is a game. Reality sucks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catsby View Post
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    Wat? The stuff going on vanity is more than likely a one time exclusive ingame for the holidays (IE, pumpkin masks). New stuff will be released next time. That's how this works.
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  3. #273
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    VeryLaZ's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catsby View Post
    Eventually you have pieces of gear that look better than what you can earn by playing.

    Then I will just buy it. I doubt I will have to take out a second mortgage.....
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  4. #274
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeryLaZ View Post
    Then I will just buy it. I doubt I will have to take out a second mortgage.....
    This leads to a lack of incentive to actually play the game, if not for you then for other people. Think a bit deeper...
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  5. #275
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeryLaZ View Post
    Some peeps are getting way to worked up over this, and thinking about it way too much. It's an OPTIONAL service, don't like it? Don't spend any money.

    SE is a company and it's products are made to make money/profit. This is a way for them to do it...get over it.

    In the end...it's just a video game, so lets all just have some fun riding around in our Sleipnir Mounts.
    So your ok with having to buy the game first then pay monthly to continue playing the game, and the after that fork up more cash if you want some things in the game? You can be happy thinking that SE only sees you as a cash machine but I'm not. I don't want them trying to entice me with shiny things for even more of my money when I already give them money every month.

    In the end what is our monthly subscription really for?
    Companies win me over by putting their fans before their wallet
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  6. #276
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenzieLynch View Post
    This leads to a lack of incentive to actually play the game, if not for you then for other people. Think a bit deeper...
    Really? This game offers so much, at least for me. From the runs with my FC, the laughs we have, the feeling of maxing out classes, to gaining certain goals, completing my sightseeing log to get a rare minion ( I can go on and on)

    If buying a minion or a sword of the shop gives anyone a lack of incentive to play this game, or any MMO in my opinion...you need to play another game.

    There will always be certain pieces of gear, or minions that you can only get in the game. The shop...at least for me, will never take away from that...how could it every replace the feeling of what I mentioned above?!
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  7. #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by IveraIvalice View Post
    In the end what is our monthly subscription really for?
    to be allowed to log so we can play. aka p2p


    Quote Originally Posted by JarinArenos View Post
    If you want to put in a cash shop, then what, if anything, are you doing to earn my subscription fees? I will not play games that double-dip. I left WoW for that garbage, and I will leave FFXIV.

    telling you to pay or you can't log in.
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  8. #278
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    If you want to put in a cash shop, then what, if anything, are you doing to earn my subscription fees? I will not play games that double-dip. I left WoW for that garbage, and I will leave FFXIV.
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  9. #279
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    Saerin Zei
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    Quote Originally Posted by JarinArenos View Post
    If you want to put in a cash shop, then what, if anything, are you doing to earn my subscription fees? I will not play games that double-dip. I left WoW for that garbage, and I will leave FFXIV.
    Bye.

    People that can't understand how to make money as a game dev don't need to be here anyway. I still have yet to hear anything that would make a logical arguement as to why this is bad aside from: "I pay a sub so I don't want it".
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  10. #280
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    Jasra Ravon
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    Quote Originally Posted by IveraIvalice View Post
    So your ok with having to buy the game first then pay monthly to continue playing the game, and the after that fork up more cash if you want some things in the game? You can be happy thinking that SE only sees you as a cash machine but I'm not. I don't want them trying to entice me with shiny things for even more of my money when I already give them money every month.

    In the end what is our monthly subscription really for?
    Companies win me over by putting their fans before their wallet
    All companies think of consumers as cash machines...it's the world we live in my friend. I have the choice to play this game or not, and to buy a mount, or not. If I didn't like it I would simply move on to something else.
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