Yoshi and Team treading that fine line

[Wyrmnus]

If they are serious about clearing it without the echo buff then is a no problem like my raid we just recently created the raid and we manage to clear all the way to t8 but still learning how to clear t9 but that does not stop us from trying to clear it the hard way if they do give us the echo buff we can alway "right click echo buff" to take away the buff and do it the legit way is that simple but the duty finder will disagree of coz they will want the echo so is some thing the casual will have to deal with it

And even then with or without the Echo buff we still have to go through the hells and migranes of learning to get through dangerous mechanics like Blighted Bouquet just like everyone else.