Ninja: Walk in shadow.

[Dorander]

The quest names are already revealed. "So You Want to Be a Rogue" Level 1 - any class. "My First Daggers" Level 1 - any class. "Stabbers in Yer Fambles" Level 1 Rogue. So the standard first 2 are to direct you to the guild and unlock the quest like usual but Rogue gets a unique third level 1 quest for lore and EXP.

You guys are failing to take into consideration, that those who "create" as a class don't have to do the get the first weathered weapon quest. So, all classes have 3 level 1 quests. It flows like this: You have just created as a Rogue: My First Daggers, then Stabbers in Yer Fambles and so on. If you are an established character then it's: So you want to be a Rogue, then Stabbers in Yer Fambles. My first daggers and So you want to be a rogue are the same quest, just depending on when you became a rogue. So really, this only reinforces the fact that one should be able to start as a rogue at 2.4 or sometime after.

[Exstal]

You guys are failing to take into consideration, that those who "create" as a class don't have to do the get the first weathered weapon quest. So, all classes have 3 level 1 quests. It flows like this: You have just created as a Rogue: My First Daggers, then Stabbers in Yer Fambles and so on. If you are an established character then it's: So you want to be a Rogue, then Stabbers in Yer Fambles. My first daggers and So you want to be a rogue are the same quest, just depending on when you became a rogue. So really, this only reinforces the fact that one should be able to start as a rogue at 2.4 or sometime after.

It was already explicitly stated that you need to be level 10 in a combat class to unlock the ability to become a Rogue.

[Dorander]

It was already explicitly stated that you need to be level 10 in a combat class to unlock the ability to become a Rogue.

Yes, it may have been stated. However that doesn't mean it hasn't been changed. Hell, even the quest names are "subject to change."

[Rak_Boy]

NIN will need AGI or DEX ?

[Exstal]

Yes, it may have been stated. However that doesn't mean it hasn't been changed. Hell, even the quest names are "subject to change."

I don't really understand the reasoning because no other class has this level 1 starting quest. So if you could start as Rogue, why would you get a quest different that no other class get an equivalent of?

[Dorander]

I don't really understand the reasoning because no other class has this level 1 starting quest. So if you could start as Rogue, why would you get a quest different that no other class get an equivalent of?

Actually they do, Here are some examples of 3 level 1 Lancer quests:

http://xivdb.com/?quest/65716/So-You...to-Be-a-Lancer

http://xivdb.com/?quest/65754/My-First-Spear

http://xivdb.com/?quest/65668/Way-of-the-Lancer

Exactly in line with the rogues, and exactly how I stated. You get one of the quests because you "started" as a lancer, and the other because you became one later as an established character that got your first class to level 10.

[Exstal]

Those are pre-requisites of each other.

So you want to be a lancer => Way of the Lancer => My First Spear

As such, you can't take these quests without doing them in this order. Has nothing to do what you pick as a starting city.

That aside, I found out that Thaumaturge only has two level 1 quests.

[Dorander]

Those are pre-requisites of each other.

So you want to be a lancer => Way of the Lancer => My First Spear

As such, you can't take these quests without doing them in this order. Has nothing to do what you pick as a starting city.

That aside, I found out that Thaumaturge only has two level 1 quests.

Well then, we will all find out when 2.4 drops.

[Dynza]

Just to let you guys know, but the quests tend to be divided based on cinematics and pacing. New quests start or end depending on the objectives of the quest and how the story presents itself.

I speculated that the rogue seems like it could have more quests in the early game since players will need to meet a minimum level before switching to the class, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they'll pick up more experience and it could simply be done for story.

Anyway, there's some speculation on the internet that the "rogue AF" will be presented to players over the course of their 1 to 30 career as quest rewards that could be glamored on to higher level equipment. What do you guys think?

And for a bit of small talk, what abilities do you think the Rogue will pick up at level 15 and 30?

My guess is that the rogue would pick up stealth at level 15, and assassinate (the leap on the head and cut the throat ability) at level 30.

[Dynza]

2.4 patch trailer released with a beefy look at the rogue and ninja stories and quest work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI2zFK_Xq38

Please don't jump to conclusions that the Ninja will require Arcanist level 15.