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  1. #281
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    Neko_Yanagi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensei View Post
    Ok, you officially have no idea what you are talking about. You either never made it past R25 or were playing in an unheard of server.
    Main source of ranking up was leves. I got the majority of my ranks with leves and leve linking. Now there are several different ways to gain sp. Behest were overpowered since the start, which is why every major patch has tweaked it. They were never meant to be a sole source of ranking up. Hence why it was tweaked again for people like yourself who didn't do anything but behest...
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  2. #282
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    Kensei Oppa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    So because ONE source of SP was reduced and it happened to be your favourite (because behest is the only one that got a real reduction), you go out on a limb drooling that Yoshida lied and all that? LOL.

    Yoshida never said that Behest would remain the same.

    The funny part is that you blatantly lie by telling that "everything else was reduced", when several quests that didn't give ANY SP now give quite a lot, and new ways to earn even more have been introduced.

    Just lol.



    Actually, he's completely right.
    Everything gives less SP like it was explained in the first post and by several other players along the pages.

    Ranking up efficiently is about SP/hour. There can be 100 new ways to get SP, if they are slower than the best one which was behest, then SP/hour was affected which means ranking up was nerfed. Which means Yoshi lied.
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  3. #283
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensei View Post
    Ok, so you agree pre-patch was faster. That's all I am saying. Like I told you before I know I can get SP now but it will take much longer and Yoshi said ranking up wouldn't be nerfed. Slower SP gain = ranking up is nerfed. How can you not agree?
    slower SP gains was met with no surplus which = the same or a little faster then old SP methods.
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  4. #284
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    slower SP gains was met with no surplus which = the same or a little faster then old SP methods.
    you act like SP reduction was made to counter the removal of surplus. I already told you I'm getting less SP now than I did in behest while fatigued pre-patch.
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  5. #285
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensei View Post
    Everything gives less SP like it was explained in the first post and by several other players along the pages.

    Ranking up efficiently is about SP/hour. There can be 100 new ways to get SP, if they are slower than the best one which was behest, then SP/hour was affected which means ranking up was nerfed. Which means Yoshi lied.
    You explained nothing. You drooled some random made-up figures that many people have already denied.

    Behest has never been the best source of SP.
    But it's massively funny to see a rank 36 trying to teach people with multiple 50s what's the best way to level up lol.
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  6. #286
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensei View Post
    Nobody has proved me wrong. All they can say is "oh but I got 5k SP that one time in that leve! it's the same!"
    I want to post this for you Kensei, because...well....you can figure it out.
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  7. #287
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    You explained nothing. You drooled some random made-up figures that many people have already denied.

    Behest has never been the best source of SP.
    But it's massively funny to see a rank 36 trying to teach people with multiple 50s what's the best way to level up lol.
    They were actual numbers. You don't believe them? That's your decision, you have every right not to. Behest was the best source of SP without question which could be verified by SP/hour numbers. I'm not trying to teach anyone, anything it is common knowledge behest was the best way to rank up. You don't agree and are gonna tell us how you ranked from 45 to 50 in 3 hours doing some magical method? Don't bother. We all know SP gains are slower now than pre-patch and I wanted to express my discomfort with that especially because the producer had said it would not happen.
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  8. #288
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensei View Post
    you act like SP reduction was made to counter the removal of surplus. I already told you I'm getting less SP now than I did in behest while fatigued pre-patch.
    Spit some more of your "numbers" so i can post more of this to my LS forums, they are having a hoot.
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  9. #289
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    Spit some more of your "numbers" so i can post more of this to my LS forums, they are having a hoot.
    I have no reason to lie. You think I'm making this up? Well nothing I can do about that. Those who are going through the same know what I mean.
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  10. #290
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    Seriy Anaplian
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    Guys SP chains for party play and killing mobs back to back is coming next patch !

    So please just wait. they cant change everything all at once.

    Additionally, there may be less SP at the moment but its a lot more fun in battle and as a mage and a tank I have to say that I am liking the changes even if they do make things slower and more difficult. Still I want to see the future changes come sooner rather than later. but all in all this patch has been a breath of fresh air !!
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