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    Xmbei's Avatar
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    Kiros Forsa
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    short history lesson on Behest:
    long long time ago it was 18 member partys and was only 1x every hour. Then came the party restructuring where the party sizes were lowered from 18 to 8, with this drastic drop in party size fewer people could participate in camp Behest's. So what did they do to aid in this made it every 30 minutes. So what do the players of Behest do camp the camps for that behest every 30 min those same 8 selfish behest party grinders, leaving the other 20 others in the camp lonely to not be able to participate in Behest. So then came patch 1.18 where they gave players a cooldown timer of 1 hour to do a behest. giving those other lonely souls a chance to get into a behest for once so that those selfish 8 people have to wait for their turn! BUT wait there is more, they added an sp bonus to all camp behest's and the more they are done and won the less that sp bonus will become. So those selfish or lonely behester's start to wander and frequent the less used behest camps, and all is happy, the end!
    I really hope people will understand the moral of my story -.-....
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    Xeto Milanti Bei

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    Abriael Rosen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    [B]Patch 1.18 was hyped so much as the patch that would save the game but it looks like it was a massive disaster from every aspect. All i see is threads that complain about it everywhere and these are not just the trolls.
    You' have quite the selective reading my feriend.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-1.18-ROCKS%21

    Notice the 170+ likes?
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    Perrina Avolara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    You' have quite the selective reading my feriend.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-1.18-ROCKS%21

    Notice the 170+ likes?
    Also, the only people hyping up 1.18 as the patch to save the game are some more overzealous players. Everyone else has been quite aware that this was merely the first of a series of major patches intended to get the game where it needs to be. Yoshi himself stated that things would be rough around the edges even after 1.18, and for people to allow them the time to refine and improve things.

    So, apparently, he has selective reading issues as well.
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    just so you guys know you probably won't hear from a comm rep for another 2 days because it is the weekend they have a life and family to keep them occupied outside of work and on a weekend so if you want an answer wait till Monday.
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    Rin Legacy
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    Who cares about leves. He said ranking up wouldn't be nerfed and then he nerfed it. Thus he lied.
    Mommymommy,
    the other kid took my toys away.

    Grow up. They can do with this game, your account,
    and all your characters what they want, and when they want.

    I think an "adjustment" to the leveling speed was absolutely adequate.
    And if he "lied" (which he didn't, that's only the way you chose to interprete his words),
    this at least spared us the forum drama before the patch.

    It's hard enough to stand the drama after.
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    Kensei Oppa
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinsui View Post
    Mommymommy,
    the other kid took my toys away.

    Grow up. They can do with this game, your account,
    and all your characters what they want, and when they want.

    I think an "adjustment" to the leveling speed was absolutely adequate.
    And if he "lied" (which he didn't, that's only the way you chose to interprete his words),
    this at least spared us the forum drama before the patch.

    It's hard enough to stand the drama after.
    It's cool if you are OK with him lying. That's your choice. I feel the least they could provide us with is honesty.
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    Then why did he make a letter saying ranking up would remain unaffected? It is now unquestionably slower so it was nerfed. That's my issue. Had he not went out of his way to lie like that I wouldn't be saying anything.
    Perhaps. But then you'd have whined just as much before the patch. -.-/
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    The point is that the game's usual means of SP gains have been reduced, and we're all getting our panties in a bunch over it. It's not fun when you're rank 48, and so close to rank 49, and the gusher has been turned off.

    Instead of a brisk jog towards your goal (or for those with very limited amounts of time, sprinting), you're being forced to crawl towards it.

    I'm getting tired of the Japanese developers thinking that adding limitations equals gameplay/progression.

    I bet Tanaka had a role in limiting the SP and adding these cooldown timers for Behest (that's the only thing that gives decent SP now!). As a rank 21 Conjurer, it was VERY painful trying to rank up solo on Leves - I didn't even get half a level bar on three leves!
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    Aneas Corilius
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 60
    People need to be spoon fed:

    From main page:

    "Up until now, guildleves have been positioned as the heart of gameplay in FINAL FANTASY XIV. Going forward, however, guildleves will be reborn as solo-oriented content that can be enjoyed with minimal time and fuss. The changes will take place beginning with 1.18, and are scheduled to continue in future patches....

    And Behest:

    [dev1069] The following changes have been made to behests:

    - Skill points are now awarded upon behest completion.
    - Bonus points will be awarded for early completion.
    - Gil rewards for behest completion have been reduced.
    - Gil/Skill point bonuses will be awarded to those who complete behests in areas where there have been no participants for several cycles, or where operations have repeatedly ended in failure.


    Like I said it is up to people to use their heads, and figure out how to maximize SP in many different ways, I never liked the one-trick pony anyways....
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    Aneas Corilius of Lindblum. I am at your service, kupo!

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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by CatchaFire420 View Post
    People need to be spoon fed:

    From main page:

    "Up until now, guildleves have been positioned as the heart of gameplay in FINAL FANTASY XIV. Going forward, however, guildleves will be reborn as solo-oriented content that can be enjoyed with minimal time and fuss. The changes will take place beginning with 1.18, and are scheduled to continue in future patches....

    And Behest:

    [dev1069] The following changes have been made to behests:

    - Skill points are now awarded upon behest completion.
    - Bonus points will be awarded for early completion.
    - Gil rewards for behest completion have been reduced.
    - Gil/Skill point bonuses will be awarded to those who complete behests in areas where there have been no participants for several cycles, or where operations have repeatedly ended in failure.


    Like I said it is up to people to use their heads, and figure out how to maximize SP in many different ways, I never liked the one-trick pony anyways....

    DING DING DIGGGADY DONG! WE HAVE A WINNER! I think I said this 50 gazillion times!
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