SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[SuzakuCMX]

Sup, Killing one of the only two or three mob families that currently give above 200 sp?

Also, and I'm just assuming you're talking about your 21 CON... Things go way, WAY, downhill the higher you get.

Aldgoats, leve mobs, and crabs from what we actually tried. There's probably more. And I did it on my R25 THM proR21LNC

EDIT: Oh and the new beastcamp mobs too

[Bled]

Wrong.

Just wrong.

Also, Yes dungeons are nice. It was a sarcastic response to the guy saying he wants leveling to be the difficult part of the game.

I never said i wanted leveling to be the most changeling aspect of the game... but cool story bro trying to put words in my mouth... however i do not want progress and leveling handed to me. If you like 0 grinding go play pvp in guild wars, this is a FF where half the fun in the game is the progress you make through stories and leveling.

[Kensei]

Going to say this, then drop it because I hate getting involved in these pathetic debates with idiots. Yoshi-P provided SEVERAL NEW WAYS to get sp. He had to decrease it in leves and behests to make up for the additional ways of receiving sp. Sounds like you can use some help identifying the different ways you can receive sp now, so allow me to enlighten you.

Guild Tasks (5k a day if you can hit all the guilds, team up with friends or LS mates and share teleports)
Leves (grouping up with friends or LS mates can help you get the most outta Leves, but solo isn't bad either)
Behests (Try areas that aren't used very often, there is a bonus for that)
Dungeons
Grinding (the new beastmen camps are fun to grind at, and more mobs added just about everywhere)
Side Quests (Very nice bonuses for these now)

There may be even more, but this is what I could think of off the top of my head. I personally have used all of these methods, some I prefer over other but I like having the options. And this is just for the Battle Classes, take a break and do some gathering (gathering leves are AWESOME now). Relax and enjoy the game. And if you're stressing over the changes, maybe this game isn't for you.... Because honestly we don't need players that only complain and are too lazy or impatient to try to improve the way they play.

I already addressed every one of those ways to get SP in the original message. SP gain is extremely slower now. That's all there is to it.

[AarosLunos]

I already addressed every one of those ways to get SP in the original message. SP gain is extremely slower now. That's all there is to it.

If its as slow as you say, show some verifiable proof. I believe the expression is "Put up or Shut Up" Others have provided proof that SP is just fine and my personal experience is the exact opposite of yours. So either your doin' it wrong, or you're just lying/trolling.

[MookiesPM75]

I never said i wanted leveling to be the most changeling aspect of the game... but cool story bro trying to put words in my mouth... however i do not want progress and leveling handed to me. If you like 0 grinding go play pvp in guild wars, this is a FF where half the fun in the game is the progress you make through stories and leveling.

Sorry brah but killing 100,000 mobs or more at 100-140xp each is not my idea of fun. The price paid is the time spent, and that time spent should not make me want to tear my hair out, as it is a GAME after all.

[MookiesPM75]

Going to say this, then drop it because I hate getting involved in these pathetic debates with trolls. Yoshi-P provided SEVERAL NEW WAYS to get sp. He had to decrease it in leves and behests to make up for the additional ways of receiving sp. Sounds like you can use some help identifying the different ways you can receive sp now, so allow me to enlighten you.

Guild Tasks (5k a day if you can hit all the guilds, team up with friends or LS mates and share teleports)
Leves (grouping up with friends or LS mates can help you get the most outta Leves, but solo isn't bad either)
Behests (Try areas that aren't used very often, there is a bonus for that)
Dungeons
Grinding (the new beastmen camps are fun to grind at, and more mobs added just about everywhere)
Side Quests (Very nice bonuses for these now)

There may be even more, but this is what I could think of off the top of my head. I personally have used all of these methods, some I prefer over other but I like having the options. And this is just for the Battle Classes, take a break and do some gathering (gathering leves are AWESOME now). Relax and enjoy the game. And if you're stressing over the changes, maybe this game isn't for you.... Because honestly we don't need players that only complain and are too lazy or impatient to try to improve the way they play.

Must be troll.

Grinding = nerfed, that was covered already several times by several different people.

Behest = nerfed to hell, covered by several people several times.

Leves = nerfed to hell, also covered by several people several times.

Guild tasks = done for points/coins/tokens/items, not for xp, as you could get better xp/time via the terrible grinding.

Side Quests = Same as above.

Dungeons are okay, and the only viable option you listed sadly.

[MookiesPM75]

Aldgoats, leve mobs, and crabs from what we actually tried. There's probably more. And I did it on my R25 THM proR21LNC

EDIT: Oh and the new beastcamp mobs too

Leve mobs do not count as with guardians favor (even the new broken one) you get some bonus to SP afaik. And honestly only being able to do 8 every 1.5 days... that is NOT a viable form of xp. It's moreso done for the guild marks and faction credits.

[Bled]

Sorry brah but killing 100,000 mobs or more at 100-140xp each is not my idea of fun. The price paid is the time spent, and that time spent should not make me want to tear my hair out, as it is a GAME after all.

As much as i hate these sayings they are so perfectly applicable

"Your doing it wrong"

Myself and many other people are not having SP gains that low so *shrug* sucks to be you.

"Take a Break if your getting that stressed out"

like you said this is a game if you cant find the fun in it and your "pulling your hair out" then take a break.

"don't let the door hit you on the way out"

such a pointless "troll saying" but really, with everything you say and your attitude we don't need to you be a part of this community.

[Kensei]

If its as slow as you say, show some verifiable proof. I believe the expression is "Put up or Shut Up" Others have provided proof that SP is just fine and my personal experience is the exact opposite of yours. So either your doin' it wrong, or you're just lying/trolling.

I don't know if you are joking. The only "proof" has been a couple of guys who got a good amount of SP from leves which I don't know if you've heard can only be done 8 times every 36 hours. Also, way to ignore all the other posters in this thread and in the forum saying the exact same thing. Want proof? Go do behest, go kill mobs 10 ranks above you then come and tell me you get the same SP as pre-patch. It's very easy to say 1.18 is awesome when you have a R50 ranked up pre-patch. The rest of us will take about 3 times as long if not more to get there.

[Neko_Yanagi]

I already addressed every one of those ways to get SP in the original message. SP gain is extremely slower now. That's all there is to it.

You addressed them by saying "it's less" when really, in actuality, it's not by very much. My LS just ran our first leve linking since patch. We got 40k-50k for the 2 camps. we normally get about 60-70k but it was so much faster than usual, so we did a dungeon afterwards. after that, we got our 60-70k for the night, and it was A LOT more fun.

And when it comes to having to go places to gain sp in quests and such, it's better when you have friends to share the ride with. That seems to be your biggest problem right there. I bet you try to do everything solo. You totally can, but it isn't as fun.