SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[AarosLunos]

Well BW gave me 9k and sometimes up to 13k. If you only got 3k from R30 behest pre-patch there was either someone too high or low screwing the SP. The point is behest are no longer viable and give only a fraction of pre-patch SP to those who did it in optimal conditions.

Maybe you need to try less populated behest. There are significant SP bonuses for doing so.

[SuzakuCMX]

Mostly eyes and skeletons while waiting for behest to come up in Nanawa Mines. Nobody did it as a main source of SP because behest was superior in every way. But since SP has been nerfed per kill then logically you would get less SP now than before patch.

SP was nerfed per kill only in leves and popular behests.

It was buffed for regular grinding and quests.

[MookiesPM75]

What was taken away from one thing was added to another, people QQ'ing over leves/behests have just gotten so used to pigeonholing them selves to one form of SP gaining. Look for alternatives if you want the fastest form of leveling, they are there and keep in mind (its been said before) Surplus is GONE! they had to make leveling more evenly sustained.

If the same SP system was still in place and there was no surplus this game would be on par with the difficulty of Hello Kitty Adventure.

Uhhh I'd rather get my game difficulty from encounters and not leveling up. Leveling is nothing more than a time sink and has more to do with patience than difficulty. And as things stand I doubt I have the patience to continue playing a game that was just re-broken.

[Kensei]

What was taken away from one thing was added to another, people QQ'ing over leves/behests have just gotten so used to pigeonholing them selves to one form of SP gaining. Look for alternatives if you want the fastest form of leveling, they are there and keep in mind (its been said before) Surplus is GONE! they had to make leveling more evenly sustained.

If the same SP system was still in place and there was no surplus this game would be on par with the difficulty of Hello Kitty Adventure.

Friend, I'm not saying I can't get any SP. Of course I can. Just at 1/4 the speed I used to which is the point of the thread along with showing how Yoshi said SP wouldn't be nerfed and that's exactly what he did. As for the surplus argument, the sad part is I used to get more SP while fatigued in behest than I do now without fatigue. That goes to show you how much it was nerfed.

[SuzakuCMX]

Uhhh I'd rather get my game difficulty from encounters and not leveling up.

Oh look, dungeons.

EDIT: And NMs are harder.

[MookiesPM75]

SP was nerfed per kill only in leves and popular behests.

It was buffed for regular grinding and quests.

Wrong.

Just wrong.

Also, Yes dungeons are nice. It was a sarcastic response to the guy saying he wants leveling to be the difficult part of the game.

[SuzakuCMX]

Wrong.

Just wrong.

254 for a mob 5 levels above me, sup?

[Kensei]

SP was nerfed per kill only in leves and popular behests.

It was buffed for regular grinding and quests.

That may have been the idea but it is not the truth. I was in a grinding group today fighting R49 mobs with me and my group being R34-36 getting 300-340SP per kill which is actually what angered me to the point of making this thread because I had felt relived before the patch when I first read Yoshi's statements in the letter only to find that not only behest was ruined but everything else.

[MookiesPM75]

254 for a mob 5 levels above me, sup?

Sup, Killing one of the only two or three mob families that currently give above 200 sp?

Also, and I'm just assuming you're talking about your 21 CON... Things go way, WAY, downhill the higher you get.

[Neko_Yanagi]

Going to say this, then drop it because I hate getting involved in these pathetic debates with trolls. Yoshi-P provided SEVERAL NEW WAYS to get sp. He had to decrease it in leves and behests to make up for the additional ways of receiving sp. Sounds like you can use some help identifying the different ways you can receive sp now, so allow me to enlighten you.

Guild Tasks (5k a day if you can hit all the guilds, team up with friends or LS mates and share teleports)
Leves (grouping up with friends or LS mates can help you get the most outta Leves, but solo isn't bad either)
Behests (Try areas that aren't used very often, there is a bonus for that)
Dungeons
Grinding (the new beastmen camps are fun to grind at, and more mobs added just about everywhere)
Side Quests (Very nice bonuses for these now)

There may be even more, but this is what I could think of off the top of my head. I personally have used all of these methods, some I prefer over other but I like having the options. And this is just for the Battle Classes, take a break and do some gathering (gathering leves are AWESOME now). Relax and enjoy the game. And if you're stressing over the changes, maybe this game isn't for you.... Because honestly we don't need players that only complain and are too lazy or impatient to try to improve the way they play.