Please put everything on Duty Finder as soon as it is released.

[Tiggy]

Do you mean coil or primals? Primals should probably be in DF right away, but coil definitely shouldn't.

Regardless of which good luck getting pug kills in those places right at the beginning. DF is just an amalgamation of random people with no regard for skill levels. Pulling out a win in this context right when content comes out is nearly impossible.

95%+ of all wins would still come from premade groups.

[Gextiv]

Do you mean coil or primals? Primals should probably be in DF right away, but coil definitely shouldn't.

Regardless of which good luck getting pug kills in those places right at the beginning. DF is just an amalgamation of random people with no regard for skill levels. Pulling out a win in this context right when content comes out is nearly impossible.

95%+ of all wins would still come from premade groups.

Some of use DF not to get a win but for practice. It would be nice to get a quick exposure to the content as soon as it is released.

[Devils_Lawyer]

Funny how some people are so negative about adding content to DF immidietly when it dosnt affect them in anyway.

Or are they worried that a DF group consisting of random players will beat stuff their static cant?

I welcome this idea, it will do no harm and if even if the chance of getting a good group or beating something in DF is very small, why not give the people that want this oppertunity a chance to atleast get some (if small) experiance on the content.

[Nghthawk]

Funny how some people are so negative about adding content to DF immidietly when it dosnt affect them in anyway.

Or are they worried that a DF group consisting of random players will beat stuff their static cant?

I welcome this idea, it will do no harm and if even if the chance of getting a good group or beating something in DF is very small, why not give the people that want this oppertunity a chance to atleast get some (if small) experiance on the content.

By doing what you are suggestion, a lot of people will have the content down a lot faster. Imagine getting practice on TCoB before going in and clearing it 10-14/15 in a matter of a hours/days. It there to stop progression faster than they can make content. Some people already do this but it stops everyone from doing so.

Yes this affects everyone, if you do the all the content 2 days after patch then what are you going to do. Craft? Gather? RP?

[Devils_Lawyer]

By doing what you are suggestion, a lot of people will have the content down a lot faster. Imagine getting practice on TCoB before going in and clearing it 10-14/15 in a matter of a hours/days. It there to stop progression faster than they can make content. Some people already do this but it stops everyone from doing so.

Yes this affects everyone, if you do the all the content 2 days after patch then what are you going to do. Craft? Gather? RP?

Most content is put in DF from the get go except coil and if DF groups can down coil bosses in matter of days then either the system manage to pair 8 expert players in 1 df group or the boss is a cakewalk.

But why should players who cant get 7 other people and a time schedual that fits everyone be left out of endgame raiding?

[Nghthawk]

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You might want to take a step back and actually read what I said and you quoted. Let me refresh your memory

"Imagine getting practice on TCoB before going in and clearing it 10-14/15 in a matter of a hours/days." <-- Refers to getting practice in DF before doing the content in new coil.

For your last question is easy, they need to setup groups that are around their time frame. This is the same format with all MMO's, if you or they can't handle it then go play something that fits your life/play-style.

[odie]

if you do the all the content 2 days after patch then what are you going to do. Craft? Gather? RP?

Yes, exactly that.

[Lord_Zlatan]

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I agree. Furthermore, if it were available in the DF a lot of these awesome players that "don't use the DF" would use it because everyone can do it. If your static is stuck on T7, and they all log off but you want to keep practicing, go for it.

I don't have a static and have been just waiting around for coil 2 to get on the DF so I can try, however long it takes, to clear it so that I can maaaaaaaybe get a static for coil 3 (unlikely). Its pointless and exclusionary. No one will do coil with you without a static because everyone already has a static and won't ditch them to fill a spot in a pug. I don't see the problem with putting it in the DF at all. people will fail, great. Let me fail at it if I want to.

[Adrian74]

Hi there.

The reason a noob like me has not even touched Second Coil of Bahamut yet is because I dislike the elitism and the stuff of static parties, totally dislike the concept.

So, please, if my nooby vote has some value, even 0,5 of a normal pro vote, I VOTE FOR THE OP's idea!... Let's put everything in duty finder since the beginning! If a premade party can do difficult content then fine! If not... At least give us the option, it's something.

I'm a solo and I rarely want to do annoying things like premades, even less with elitist pricks. I rather join DF, say "Hi everyone" and let's try.

Don't lock contents to elitists, don't make them think they are super just because they have a static group.

Regards.

[SeraviEdalborez]

The reason a noob like me has not even touched Second Coil of Bahamut yet is because I dislike the elitism and the stuff of static parties, totally dislike the concept.

People can and have cleared T9 in basically pickup groups. Statics are not required. At this point most PFs should be clearing T6 with ease, T7 with a decent kiter, and T8 as long as 2/5 DPS aren't complete drooling idiots and execute well enough that their damage output reflects what their gear suggests it should be.

Statics sys DONT work these days... ppl have JOBS-Family and stuff to do.. players database its older than use to be.... its hard to coordinate 8 players to log at the same time week after week.. and these days its hard to find ppl for anything in most servers (30+ min everyday waiting for King Mog ex....)...

Our static has a lot of people with long-hour fulltime jobs and even a EU player who has to stay up at odd hours to raid. A friend's static has numerous people with families/kids/girlfriends/schools/jobs.

You can make time. Static isn't putting in 20 hours a day, 6 days a week. It's not hardcore all progression all the time. You put in the hours, you save time later. We clear 6-9 in one night, sometimes in just one hour. Because we put in the work where we could, and that wasn't "nonstop".