SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[TAS]

Well Since were quoting Yoshi, how about acknowledging the Part of that letter where it said "The Future of Ranking Up." Just maybe Yoshi acknowleged during the creation of the patch an error was made in the amount of EXP given from leves and mobs, and didn't want to risk delaying the patch for another extended period to make such ajustments, as the main purpose of the patch was to only emplement Grand Companies and Auto-Attack (as far as I'm concerned everything else was just a bonus).

Maybe Yoshi acknowledged the "nerf" and tried to explain that this won't be a permanent thing, as he also makes refrences to further adjusments to Leves, Partying, (and for all you complainers and melo-dramatics out there) THE BATTLE SYSTEM in patch 1.19 as he mentions in the formentioned Letter. (also keep in mind that, that letter came out the day before Patch and when he says "The Future of Ranking Up" he didn't directly say that the non nerfing was gonna take place in 1.18)

This is a whole new system and a whole lot of new content and I'm suprised so many people thought it as going to be Picture Perfect. Keep some enthusiasm and remain optimistic people, this is only the beginning!

[Chocobits]

Actually, those XI numbers aren't even current. Right now EP's give 80~120+ EXP now depending on the difference. They really cranked up EXP (don't even get me started on Abyssea - you wanna talk about easy mode how's going from 60~90 in 1 day?)

Not saying XIV should be as easy as XI is now, but it's definitely a bit much.

Can do 1-90 in 1 day with a static or a little luck. Just need to reach the lvl 30 entrance requirement of entering Abyssea - All party xp with a PL 14+~ will earn you at least 20k/hr with the right setup. FFXI has been on cruise control for well over a year now. My analogy was aimed at finding a happy medium though, not asking for moar easy mode.

[Raim]

So basically you want people to sit idly by while leveling becomes excruciating for the next few months with the hopes that they actually acknowledge this error in judgement?

[Synfrag]

Actually, those XI numbers aren't even current. Right now EP's give 80~120+ EXP now depending on the difference. They really cranked up EXP (don't even get me started on Abyssea - you wanna talk about easy mode how's going from 60~90 in 1 day?)

Not saying XIV should be as easy as XI is now, but it's definitely a bit much.

I've been gone since Abyssea really took hold. I just pulled up something from the original boost. Thanks for the clerification.

[Synthesis]

Leves are so low that I thought I will pass on these. Behest is joke. Grinding is low now, you have to wait very often for mage to recover his hp. (I have very small ls, we play in pt 4/4 with one mage) and grinding after patch becomes not fun anymore, for all people (4) in our ls, yes we are small. I am not alone with this opinion.

Progression was great before. Sp, etc.
Just leves could be improved to prevent no parties for lower ppl without these big3 bw leves, etc. But instead of leves improvements they screwed all in my opinion. But this still can be improved at 1.19.

On other hand Quests now give not so low amount of EXP, this will help a bit.

[Synfrag]

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So let me get this straight. Leves are no longer a viable source of leveling even as a means of solo content, according to reports. That leads us next to questing for SP, which is good! However, questing for experience will only help you cap even ONE disciple, and then you are left without any repeatable quests (Not leves) to level up others.

Finally, there is the most reliable leveling source currently, grinding parties. As I understand it, FFXI veterans are more than accustomed to this. However, how do you plan to get people playing your game if the only viable leveling option is to grind monsters for hours a day until you can go into 2 dungeons?

What is the difference between grinding in exp parties and grinding instances in other games? What else is there? Grinding repeat "kill x amount of this mob" quests? No thanks.

Leves are not that bad, people just don't understand them yet. I'm getting 3-5k SP per Levequest and finishing them in under 10 min solo. That's pretty much a full load of leves in about an hour for around 30k SP. To me that is about what it was before I stopped playing a couple months ago.

To whoever said 1500SP per kill I don't even know what to say about that. Alpha, Beta and Retail I have never heard of anything even close to that. Maybe it's a 35+ thing? I always thought there was a 400SP cap per mob. I must be mistaken...

[Chronic]

Boo Hoo lol

[Firon]

Ok guys here is some info not gonna post raw data don't feel like typing all of it but here it goes.

So today when i booted up the game my 30 GLA had 2k on its lvl out of 38k Sp.

So i did 8 leve's, all the leve's gave me a total of 3.2k~4k exp per leve (including mobs) on 2 star difficulty solo I finished most of them in 4-7~ mins. Every time I finished a leve under 5 mins I would normally get 4k Sp total. So if you are fast enough you can get at least 26,587~32,456 SP out of 8 leve's

On a side note LL leve's seem to give bigger bonus on exp on finish and so does grid. Also putting it on 2 stars solo is fine just try for under 5 mins if you can so you get the big bonus, but under 7 min's still gives an bonus so that's fine too.

Hope this helps a little~ Also ill try to do some 40 leve's tomorrow and get some data for that.

[Chocobits]

Boo Hoo lol

Irony: the lol is the only thing to put you /10char, but we appreciate your contributions sir or madam.

[Chocobits]

Ok guys here is some info not gonna post raw data don't feel like typing all of it but here it goes.

So today when i booted up the game my 30 GLA had 2k on its lvl out of 38k Sp.

So i did 8 leve's, all the leve's gave me a total of 3.2k~4k exp per leve (including mobs) on 2 star difficulty solo I finished most of them in 4-7~ mins. Every time I finished a leve under 5 mins I would normally get 4k Sp total. So if you are fast enough you can get at least 26,587~32,456 SP out of 8 leve's

On a side note LL leve's seem to give bigger bonus on exp on finish and so does grid. Also putting it on 2 stars solo is fine just try for under 5 mins if you can so you get the big bonus, but under 7 min's still gives an bonus so that's fine too.

Hope this helps a little~ Also ill try to do some 40 leve's tomorrow and get some data for that.

Thank you. I've seen it hinted from a few other sources that leves now seem to reward SP on a largely sliding scale based on completion time. I'll give this a shot and chime in on results.