Please add clearance condition to Group Finder

[NyarukoW]

Non-sequitur mis-attributes...

Jealous of what? Time spent to get learn to the content is only part of effort. The second part is recruiting your farm static. Somehow you forgot that takes some effort to meet up with people coordinate times etc.

And 3 star synths? Charging gil. I have not trouble with that, just like you need to put in the effort you recruit your static. That stuff does not come for free.

... The party finder as it is now allows you to exclude people you don't want...

So then leave well enough alone and screw it up with the worthless "clearance condition". I am all for leaving things the way they are. But I am pretty sure it does NOT exclude the newbies you hate so much.

... Just like newbies have the right to have a learning party, we have the right to have a farm party. You keep throwing out there that people are lazy if they use party finder to farm....

Make the farm party out of the static you recruited. That is the best way. You DO NOT have right to have the party finder doing it for you. You are lucky when that party does fill. And people that don't have clear have just as much right wanting to farm the stuff as you do.

[Ashkendor]

Dealing with other players is not nuisance, it is all part and parcel of the game. Even dealing with friends might be nuisance to you. If you wanted a single player game, you are in the wrong place.

We're talking about wanting to play with other vets and you're carrying on about single player games? This makes no sense whatsoever. In any case, dealing with players that lie to you about knowing the content is a nuisance that something as simple as another checkbox added to party finder could alleviate.

If you don't put in the time to recruit your farm static, what make you think that you are entitled to have the system find you one?

Why do you keep going on about farm statics? Seriously, the only statics I see are for SCoB.

Why are you so stuck on this idea that the only time people can farm is in a static? ._.

I seriously can't figure out if you are a really good troll or a really inexperienced player.

[NyarukoW]

Why do you keep going on about farm statics? Seriously, the only statics I see are for SCoB.

You can try to farm using the PF, but you are the mercy of others who also want to farm. Beggars can't be choosers. And obviously that makes people unhappy, so form a static to farm stuff, it works and its efficient. I got people in my FC that farms ponies and mirrors and such and they are always the same group that does it. And someone in the FC need to clear it, they bring them along to clear it. This makes things work.

And new players are not a nuisance. People think they know stuff after they watched video right? So if they think they can farm why not let them try? If they wipe the party you can remove them, and then put it up back on the PF. I've always advocated that people say they are new. You can see this in any of my posts. You want to slander the newbies and accuse them of lying, when they did no such thing, and beside they can't that 1st-time myth bonus will show up. The clearance condition won't help you with people claim to have skill and experience but does not because they bought their clears. So you rather give them a chance, because they paid RMT and bought a clear?

[Alistaire]

I seriously can't figure out if you are a really good troll or a really inexperienced player.

Mediocre troll at best; the mark of a good troll is putting less effort into their posts than the people replying. If their posts aren't what they actually believe, it'd take some work to put together points as ridiculous as this. The best trolls don't even reply after they've started a riot.

[Yoninxi]

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Are you really that ignorant? I help new players all the time . I helped my FC through coil one last night/then joined a random T5 learning party, along with countless of other learning parties just to help. Your selective reading skill is amazing.

But the good thing is, I can make a farm party, habe all kinds oft exclusionary comments for The Party, in The Party finder, and boot inexperienced players if they join my party, cause its my prerogative. Check box or not, clear or not, if someone joins my parties and they suck, They are getting booted. Its not fair to the 6 other people in my party to have to baby someone that can't hold their weight when the other 7 can.

[NyarukoW]

... boot inexperienced players if they join my party, cause its my prerogative. Check box or not, clear or not, if someone joins my parties and they suck, They are getting booted....

Anyone say it isn't your prerogative? But you don't need no check box or clear to figure out who is inexperienced or unskilled. That is the whole point. What you need to determine that is to actually go in the instance with them and do it. If they can't dodge, won't stack, die to plumes, kill the spiney, etc. you will know.

....If their posts aren't what they actually believe, it'd take some work to put together points ....

I am not a troll. I truly believe the game should be more inclusive, and my points are not ridiculous, it just that you don't agree and don't like them. A "no newbie allowed" check box a.k.a "clearance condition" is fundamentally wrong.

[Dhex]

NyarukoW: A Rokien Reborn

[Kyri]

Im not quite sure why everyone is jumping on Nya here truth be told. Please keep in mind I do not agree to everything this person states but Im not seeing much more valid points from those arguing back to her either.

I don't take breaks from this game, I play three characters and I clear content. But There does seem to be this big gaping hole between "Players who beat this and want to farm" to "Players who can't seem to get any help or are forever stuck in learning pts people who can clear don't want to help them with"


This places these people in "Quit or buy" situations. And let's face it.. buying is not a a fix for this. It just means player 1 with no exp is now joining your party finder group with a win and no experience.

Now many of you would suggest to join a FC or how you helped your fc members achieve these things but Ive been in a few Fc's and listened to friends in Fc's who do not get help. Find another fc you say? They did, and that next one wasn't much better. Now im not saying all fc's do this but Ive seen more then a few where only key members ever receive help.


I know I already said this but the only true fix is a incentive to help players beat content. Not to shun late bloomers for not starting off. I started this game in 2010. Does that mean Im better then anyone who started during ARR? No. It' just means I had more of a drive to play this game. I don't hold anyone accountable for this and you guys should really think about how best to respond to someone that doesn't agree to your point then call them a troll for -trying- to bring some valid points of their cause to the picture.

If you people are truly this offended someones trying to join your party to -beat- content because they are having worse luck then you did at the time(and I hang out with these people and I know some of you whined and bitched about titan and Scob that you "knnooowww" you could beat but the "paaarttyys" hold you back in the end.) I helped you beat these things. Other people helped you beat these things. Some of you got lucky enough to get taken in by good fc's /statics and managed to excel just as you stated you could if you could just get that win. It was a win win. They got a dedicated member, you got your clear and could move onto finally farming. This doesn't make you better then the people who could also beat this with a few good people but are stuck struggling to catch that break you did.


So no imo we don't need this feature, we need more incentives to help these people cross the gap and become like us rather then shunned by us because "we got lucky where they didn't"

[Gucci_Charms]

Make the farm party out of the static you recruited. That is the best way. You DO NOT have right to have the party finder doing it for you. You are lucky when that party does fill. And people that don't have clear have just as much right wanting to farm the stuff as you do.

One word:

LOL.

You can try to farm using the PF, but you are the mercy of others who also want to farm. Beggars can't be choosers. And obviously that makes people unhappy, so form a static to farm stuff, it works and its efficient. I got people in my FC that farms ponies and mirrors and such and they are always the same group that does it. And someone in the FC need to clear it, they bring them along to clear it.

Why don't they bring you? Actually nevermind, I can understand why LOL.

[Yoninxi]

According to NyarukoW, you should only use the party finder to fill parties. You should be happy with anyone gracious enough to be grouped with you. You could get experienced players, and totally new players all in one bag, and you must deal with it. It must not be used to deny any player because they have just as much right to the content as you do. That sounds awfully like the duty finder to me.