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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parodine View Post
    I feel like this could be said of ANY EX fight, really.

    I think Ramuh takes a lot of practice and it helps to have a core group go in each time to practice with and quickly understand how things will be communicated. Like another poster said, this can make pugging Ramuh Ex incredibly difficult.
    But if you can get a core group, just keep at it. An FC static of mine took a couple nights each week and would slowly work through the phases, and by now we have it on farm fairly easily. Just keep telling yourself 'Welp, no landslides.'
    Landslides are way easier to deal with compared to Chaos Strikes because so many pugs fail at this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    It's cause the Japanese players are better at this game than the rest of the world... :x
    Order of the Blue Garter would like a word with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galliano View Post
    Order of the Blue Garter would like a word with you.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFNSUewb7CI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Landslides are way easier to deal with compared to Chaos Strikes because so many pugs fail at this.
    A lot of pugs I've met fail pretty hard at landslides, honestly. Whether it's lag or just not knowing, who knows. But weight of the lands is another one that can be unforgiving with even just slight lag. Ramuh's moves seem less to me.

    I guess if we keep making this a help thread: the best way my static learned to deal with chaotic strikes was to play waymarks in three corners of the circle. We would primarily use one until the add phase. And then as we moved around killing the adds, use another one, etc. If something screwed up and they didn't make it, then they would quickly announce over team-speak, etc.

    But mentioning teamspeak...it helps a lot with communication for us. But I see how that can make PUGing it difficult, again, since most won't be utilizing that. Hopefully people who have beaten it without ever using it can offer more tips.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galliano View Post
    Order of the Blue Garter would like a word with you.
    Depends on what you are comparing, actually. In JP servers, on a general level JP players does operate more seamlessly and does less flops than EN players.

    If you are talking about top flights, you should not under estimate Lucrezia. They have shown what they are capable of with their world first savage coil clears. I believe they would be contending for world firsts in the next coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    I was simply trying to say that there are players from other countries that are as good as and better than a lot of JP players.

    BG did after all beat Twintania world first (prior to the nerf) and T9 world first. So you've got to give them credit where credit is due.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Depends on what you are comparing, actually. In JP servers, on a general level JP players does operate more seamlessly and does less flops than EN players.

    If you are talking about top flights, you should not under estimate Lucrezia. They have shown what they are capable of with their world first savage coil clears. I believe they would be contending for world firsts in the next coil.
    Cherie's comment was a blanket statement, I was pointing out that it was incorrect.
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    You're the one that started world first comparisons when it was never about them and about general pugs, and I can assure you that JP pugs blow the NA player base out of the water by average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    You're the one that started world first comparisons when it was never about them and about general pugs, and I can assure you that JP pugs blow the NA player base out of the water by average.
    Cherie said "better at this game" not better at general pugs, so my comment still stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galliano View Post
    Cherie said "better at this game" not better at general pugs, so my comment still stands.
    Does a single group of players represent the rest of the players playing the game? Do you think that BG claiming world T5 and T9 equates the EN players are better at this game?

    If this is the way you think, when Lucrezia claimed all world savage clears then does this mean that the Japanese players are better at this game now?
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