Why is Ramuh EX so hard :(

[Cherie]

It's just group jump rope.

Choose your fellow jump-ropers wisely = profit.

Don't bring any people that wanna be heroes or cowboys.

Bring people instead that can do synchronized swimming if they tried.

Everyone wants to save someone, everyone wants to be a hero.... Your love hurts, please stop... :x Your love is like lightning, burning me alive! I don't wanna be rescued, I would invite people that would listen instead!

[Steady]

It's definitely not easier. It puts more pressure on the tank and healers. What's funny is that the people I used to play with started out doing this method for a few weeks and then switched to the tank swapping way. We beat Ramuh EASILY with the tank swap.

As for why Ramuh is hard... well, this game lacks hard content. At the moment, Ramuh and Second Coil are the only difficult end-game trials/raids to do right now (that are not redundant).

Tend to agree with original poster. 1 tank is the easier method IF your tank/healers can get the job done. It's much more forgiving in terms of orb management.

[Ophie-Mio]

I agree with the assessment list above....except! I'd put Garuda above Leviathan. I heal for all the EX runs and I find that Ramuh is just such an annoying pain.

The group I run with has cleared T9 and even they think that Ramuh is difficult. If you even make it beyond the insane and unpuggable DPS check, you're stuck with rolling thunder and panic. Even if people expect the number priority system to work, the rolling thunder still can become an issue...

Add onto this the insanity of the field itself. When orbs are in adds and you can't see them. There's just so much going on in the field and then OOPS, a dps collected an orb too many and one of the tanks drop.

I've also tried it with the 1 tank 3 x healer method and that one is worse. The two sch's have to be communicating to an insane amount just to coordinate Lustrates.

The rewards are awesome and I'm sure once it's on farming level, it's fine but yea...the fight is annoying and insane given that you can pug it at the ilevel that you can. Healers can maybe be lower than i100 but everyone else, nope. Not with that DPS check.

[Lyrinn]

Ramuh EX is stupidly easy. It's the other players that make it difficult.

[Coatl]

Yeah the DPS check is insane! I can't believe the item level requirement for Ramuh is i85. Item level freakin' 85! DPS won't make the check consistently without i100 at the least. Not that it's a bad thing, I understand why SE would let you go in there being i85. So people can get their paws wet and know how out of their league they are when they try going there under geared

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[Cherie]

Yeah the DPS check is insane! I can't believe the item level requirement for Ramuh is i85. Item level freakin' 85! DPS won't make the check consistently without i100 at the least. Not that it's a bad thing, I understand why SE would let you go in there being i85. So people can get their paws wet and know how out of their league they are when they try going there under geared

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It's cause the Japanese players are better at this game than the rest of the world... :x
At least I can speak for Americans, we are playing for amusement only to maybe pass the time. This is about as involved as watching Game of Thrones or something to westerners while eating dinner with one hand and maybe we just have our non dominant hand moving our character around.... If we played it like we were actually playing a sport outdoors we'd do better, or, if we played like how people drive so aggressively on the freeway... lol

Different folks, different attitudes on what's fun.

[Sessurea]

I have gotten to like 5-10% on ramuh in df twice, still no win for me. I find it generally ok, and so do ppl in df it seems, but the dps check ian't often passed. Then for some reason once people got that down, rolling thunder seems to ruin it then. Theres tons of time to even type "ok I will collect orbs", but even then, more often than not, ppl will self rape themselves casting def buffs or w/e. out of sheer panic.

I think echo will make ramuh a joke tbh. More ppl will be passing the dps check, and all that' left is to deal with rolling thunder. It's pretty much just the same thing for whole fight, but arbiters and rolling thunder added in.

One thing that does amuse me though is "TS is a must" in pf. I mean, do ppl gotta make it even easier?

[Chiramu]

Ramuh EX is stupidly easy. It's the other players that make it difficult.

I do agree with this, once you get past the arbiters it is just DPS Ramuh.

[Madoka]

i85 just needs to use an LB and might even have LB2 available normally. i100+ doesnt need lb and will only have lb1 available if dps is poor anyway

[Parodine]

Ramuh EX is stupidly easy. It's the other players that make it difficult.

I feel like this could be said of ANY EX fight, really.

I think Ramuh takes a lot of practice and it helps to have a core group go in each time to practice with and quickly understand how things will be communicated. Like another poster said, this can make pugging Ramuh Ex incredibly difficult.
But if you can get a core group, just keep at it. An FC static of mine took a couple nights each week and would slowly work through the phases, and by now we have it on farm fairly easily. Just keep telling yourself 'Welp, no landslides.'