I'm convinced you're trolling now.Where have I ever promoted the notion that newbies go join farm parties to wipe people? I just say people that want to farm should have their parties together already, but if they are using the PF, they do NOT have the right to exclude newbies. The PF is not tool for them to exclude people. If they happen to get newbie, they should help the newbie learn. If you don't want to do that, don't abuse the PF.
A win/clear does NOT equal knowledge or skill of the mechanics either. They could have been dead in the corner from being to end of a instance and got a clear too.
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