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  1. #71
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    Xisin's Avatar
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    Xisin Fendada
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PenutButter View Post
    my BLM was already hitting pretty close to my MNK and the BLM is less geared. The fact that the BLM was ranged and had far superior AoE more than made up for the damage difference in dummy fights.

    My MNK does around 480, ilv 110 with 115 weapon. No food, no pots, no DK whore. Same tower duty, turn 2,4, and 6. My BLM with same gear, ESPECIALLY the weapon, can easily do the same,
    Havent I already called you out on not having blm leveled?

    No matter, the drg/monk guy in my static out dpses me (on monk) it isnt uncommon for him to be at or around 500-510 when the best I've ever mustered is 496... and let me tell you 490+ can be hard to muster where as he is much much more consistent.

    Before you scream and complain about job balance, be aware that you are not top level play.

    and balance should NEVER be adjusted to anything other than top level play for any game, thats a good way to really screw balance up in general.

    the biggest balance disparity atm is actually monk to dragoon, a case can be made with drg being inferior to monk currently.
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    Last edited by Xisin; 09-27-2014 at 12:13 PM.

  2. #72
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    Alan Turing
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    It must be nice to play with a sub-30ms latency as many Japanese or NA players do. With average 120ms to 150ms like EU players have these numbers are not achievable.
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  3. #73
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    Mala Liath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grotesque View Post
    It must be nice to play with a sub-30ms latency as many Japanese or NA players do. With average 120ms to 150ms like EU players have these numbers are not achievable.
    May I know how does latency affect DPS please ? I live on the other side of the planet from where the servers are located and I am pushing 460 DPS with one bard that does foes only at the start of the battle and no HA weapon.
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    Last edited by OneWingedSora; 09-29-2014 at 11:07 PM.

  4. #74
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    Uninstall's Avatar
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    Yukairi Ran
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    May I know how does latency affect DPS please ? I live on the other side of the planet from where the servers are located and I am pushing 460 DPS with one bard that does foes only at the start of the battle and no HA weapon.
    It's almost as if the game doesn't have 2.5 second GCDs and the ability to queue abilities.
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  5. #75
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    Alkimi Asura
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Yeah the GCD is actually designed well in that respect. The only way latency would affect you would be if it was absolutely horrific (like 500 ms+) or if all your spells were macros for some bizarre reason.
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  6. #76
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    Harold Saxon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grotesque View Post
    It must be nice to play with a sub-30ms latency as many Japanese or NA players do. With average 120ms to 150ms like EU players have these numbers are not achievable.
    I'm in EU and achieve those numbers.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    May I know how does latency affect DPS please ? I live on the other side of the planet from where the servers are located and I am pushing 460 DPS with one bard that does foes only at the start of the battle and no HA weapon.
    Sure. Take the feedback time (latency) between client-server when your skills / procs are ready and you send your action to the server. Multiply this with the number of skills you press during a fight and you get the slack generated by latency (20ms vs 120ms e.g., human reaction neglected). Now think about how much skills you could have been able to press more inside this slack time. This effect is not equal for every DPS class, bards are affected more than BLMs for example. However, this effect exists and it affects all apsects of the game which includes DPS. GCD and queueing lowers the effect but doesn't compensate it completely. Take a basic CS course about networking if you need more information.
    Resume: If you're able to put out those numbers, you would be able to push out even higher numbers with less latency.
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    Last edited by Grotesque; 09-30-2014 at 06:15 PM.

  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    I'm in EU and achieve those numbers.
    That's becuase latency in EU is actually pretty good in most countries while NA is terribad because of the way internet infrastructure is built over there (and it will probably stay that way for that reason). This has been common knowledge for years, I guess Grotesque switched something up.
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    That's becuase latency in EU is actually pretty good in most countries while NA is terribad because of the way internet infrastructure is built over there (and it will probably stay that way for that reason). This has been common knowledge for years, I guess Grotesque switched something up.
    Yeah, right. But it also depends were you are at EU. If you're in GB it might be better than Germany or Austria
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  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    That's becuase latency in EU is actually pretty good in most countries while NA is terribad because of the way internet infrastructure is built over there (and it will probably stay that way for that reason). This has been common knowledge for years, I guess Grotesque switched something up.
    The guy specified EU. I gave an example as to where he was wrong. I've been at 150+ping while i've been playing this the last few months.

    Canada's infrastructure is notoriously bad from what i've been told. I'd love to have a proper EU datacenter and have some of the low pings that Canadian players enjoy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Grotesque View Post
    Resume: If you're able to put out those numbers, you would be able to push out even higher numbers with less latency.
    Which is all well and good, but you said these numbers aren't possible with higher latency in the EU, which is untrue.
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