[Pole] Do you want to see the summoner class reworked?

[BloodPact]

Can't believe this is still going on. The simple answer is no. What everyone seems to be forgetting is that SMN is not the main focus of being a SMN; ACN is. ACN use Mathmatics to manipulate aether to use it how they see fit. What does this mean? It means they can just blast straight unaspected aether (ruin, ruinII with a blind debuff), they can summon minions (the carbuncle), they can make you sick (bio, miasma, ect.), or whatever SE wants them to be able to do. SMN is nothing more than a specialized extention of that in the fact that they can now summon egis of certain primals. If they were to rework SMN they would have to make a new class for SMN to branch from and that would make just about as much sense as it coming from ACN. SMN is perfectly fine the way it is.

"I'm afraid your logic, class to job rules and lore facts are not enough for the simple fact that I dreamed otherwise yesterday."

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This is what it boils down to when listening to the other side from your point of view. You're right, there is no reason to keep trying to debate aside from reading the hilarious responses that often pop up.

[melflomil]

Just give the egi's a remodel 1/4 of their regular Size.

More signature attacks like mountain buster, upheaval and landslide.

A true re balance of all egi's

[Dwill]

Just give the egi's a remodel 1/4 of their regular Size.

More signature attacks like mountain buster, upheaval and landslide.

A true re balance of all egi's

I wonder if people even look at the name of the egi's abilities before asking for new ones:

http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Mountain_Buster
http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Landslide

[Sanguisio]

Yes but more needs to be developed from this.

[BloodPact]

Yes but more needs to be developed from this.

And it will when the expansion hits and the level cap is raised. We've known this information for the longest time now, just like how we have proof from an official post that no changes will be made to the current pets or the summoner job (at least until the expansion), hence why this whole thread is pointless. And even if Summoner were to be modified at that point it's because the Armoury System as a whole will go through changes, not just one class.

[Sanguisio]

snip.

I was responding to something earlier, either way your response is unnecessary

[Lethorian]

Just give the egi's a remodel 1/4 of their regular Size.

More signature attacks like mountain buster, upheaval and landslide.

A true re balance of all egi's

I hated SMN when this game first came out, I mained BRD and was extremely interested in SMN until I saw the Egis. They were ugly little floating blobs that barely even resembled their primal counterpart. It was a huge turn off from the job until one day watching one of the CSs of the beast tribes summoning a primal it hit me...

Think about the primals and what is normally required to summon them, the beast tribes go through terrible lengths to call them forth. Hundreds of souls are sacrificed in order for a primal to enter the world. Right off the bat it would be dumb if you summoned an egi that was a 1/4 direct scale of a primal without it having 1/4 direct scale of it's power. It, then, wouldn't make sense for one person to be able to wield 1/4 of that power by simply reading a diagram from a book in comparison. Another thing to look at is how many SMN are running around the world. If 4 SMN each summoned their titan that would essentially mean that all of titan was summoned and wouldn't make sense if any more than that were summoned in general. SMNs are able to call forth the essence of a primal which makes a ton more sense when you stack it up against the way primals normally work. Sure they may not be the most aesthetically pleasing but in this game world right now they fit in a way that makes sense with the continuity of the world.

[Sanguisio]

lol really............

[alsims2007]

No. Summoners are fine as is. Plus it leaves alot of room for some awesome skills in the future whenever the level cap is increased. Nothing is broken about them so why fix it?

[Eraqus]

Its not a broken issue its anothsr kind of problem. The point is that smn dosent look like a smn at all. I repeat For the 1000th time. Y a smn uses poisons? Like bio miasma etc. Cmon guys use ur heads. If it was a dot its ok but not a poison dot. Change name and visual effect its ok....but y poisons.