Honest question: If every player/class/job is equal,who is unique? (Gameplay topic)

[Estevo]

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Scootaloo you make good points, and you've said nothing wrong, the only thing you did wrong was decide to try and post feedback on these forums

I would suggest just avoiding posting on the forums for a while, see if the atmosphere changes, but chances are they won't, and it's just not worth the trouble.

I'm sure you know by now what I mean, the unending pattern of someone posting some sort of feedback that could very well better the game, and then the entire herd comes along and bashes your skull in for even considering something different, something that doesn't compute with the current game (which won't exist a few years down the line regardless, so jokes on them), and then you try to defend yourself, but they somehow turn it around and make you look like the bad guy.

It's honestly scary how predictable people are.

BTW Cynric knows what he's talking about, I agree with him wholeheartedly

[Brine_Gildchaff]

I'm sure you know by now what I mean, the unending pattern of someone posting actual relevant feedback that could better the game, and then the entire herd comes along and bashes your skull in for even considering something different

Yes. Because clearly nobody in the twelve pages posted so far has pointed out actually relevant objections to the OP's claims. Certainly none of them have taken the time and effort to explain why their suggestion of "feedback" is based on something that is just plain objectively WRONG.

[Dwill]

Scootaloo you make good points, and you've said nothing wrong, the only thing you did wrong was decide to try and post feedback on these forums

I would suggest just avoiding posting on the forums for a while, see if the atmosphere changes, but chances are they won't, and it's just not worth the trouble.

I'm sure you know by now what I mean, the unending pattern of someone posting actual relevant feedback that could better the game, and then the entire herd comes along and bashes your skull in for even considering something different, something that doesn't compute with the current game (which won't exist a few years down the line regardless, so jokes on them), and then you try to defend yourself, but they somehow turn it around and make you look like the bad guy.

It's honestly scary how predictable people are.

BTW Cynric knows what he's talking about, I agree with him wholeheartedly

Yes, you two are just martyrs. Not the fact that what you call "relevant feedback that could better the game" is just blatant criticism mixed with a whole bag of negativity, nor the fact that said feedback just shows a total ignorance of how the game actually works and refuse to acknowledge that your claims are based on said ignorance. Yes, you're just martyrs.

[Cynric]

BTW Cynric knows what he's talking about, I agree with him wholeheartedly

I honestly think the only reason most of our classes are so basic is because they wanted to have a new player friendly job meta for the re launch of the game. Based on what I've seen of Ninja, the original design of Warrior, Scholar, as well as the slightly unique feel of Monk. I'm sure they'll have less basic stuff eventually for our classes. But I'm not going to pretend like I don't see how bare bones our current jobs are. They just need some stuff added to flesh them out. But it wont be a skill, it'd have to be a mechanic that only that class deals with or works with. Like how Monks are separated by GL3, but it has to be more than just a simple buff/attack management IMO.

Also there was plenty of relevant feedback posted throughout this thread, A lot of it I actually echoed in my own post just with a lot more words and big comparison.

[Estevo]

I honestly think the only reason most of our classes are so basic is because they wanted to have a new player friendly job meta for the re launch of the game. Based on what I've seen of Ninja, the original design of Warrior, Scholar, as well as the slightly unique feel of Monk. I'm sure they'll have less basic stuff eventually for our classes. But I'm not going to pretend like I don't see how bare bones our current jobs are. They just need some stuff added to flesh them out. But it wont be a skill, it'd have to be a mechanic that only that class deals with or works with. Like how Monks are separated by GL3, but it has to be more than just a simple buff/attack management IMO.

Also there was plenty of relevant feedback posted throughout this thread, A lot of it I actually echoed in my own post just with a lot more words and big comparison.

Again I agree, and of course there has been some relevant feedback, but if you ask me I can't see it through the huge miasma of hate and insults, to put it figuratively. I just wish people would understand systems change all the time in mmos, or that's how it should be, because mmos that don't change aren't interesting, unless they're literally godlike to begin with (so none,) it's why I don't give feedback that's relevant to the current game systems, because no one except MAYBE the devs know what the game will be like down the road, because deep down we know it won't be the same a year or two from now, and that COULD be a wonderful thing.

I really dislike how people sugarcoat things, honestly I could say a thousand times how much I love the game but if I even say one thing that goes against the current design, I'll get bashed for it, but it's k, that's just how the forums are...