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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    he in fact said it was misinterpreted. so yes.
    "I own a unicorn". I've said it. It must be true. I have the national animal of Scotland roaming in my back yard eating rainbows. Because something is said, doesn't mean it's true.

    He said it, because doing a mea culpa is hard for anyone. He said it because some misguided players were figuratively calling for his head on a pike. He did what lots of people do, he tried to dodge responsibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teryaani View Post
    "I own a unicorn". I've said it. It must be true. I have the national animal of Scotland roaming in my back yard eating rainbows. Because something is said, doesn't mean it's true.

    He said it, because doing a mea culpa is hard for anyone. He said it because some misguided players were figuratively calling for his head on a pike. He did what lots of people do, he tried to dodge responsibility.
    how? he took blame and even apologized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    how? he took blame and even apologized.
    No, he apologized that we misinterpreted him. That's what is known in common parlance as a "non-apology". "I'm sorry you're upset", is not being sorry that they failed to communicate, it's him passing the blame back to the offended party.

    This would have been an apology, and Yoshi, feel free to copy and paste this if you happen to have wandered from the JP forums.

    "To my fellow players,

    I am deeply sorry that we failed to inform you of changes in the housing implementation from their initial announcement to their implementation. When we had stated that they would be separate and cheaper it was because we were going to implement them as an entirely new system within the game. Unfortunately, the resource usage of this system threatened stability of core features of the game and had to be scrapped. When the decision was made to made to instead have player housing share resource with Free Company housing, we should have made players aware of that change so their expectations would be in line with the final product.

    For this, I deeply apologize"

    There.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teryaani View Post
    No, he apologized that we misinterpreted him. That's what is known in common parlance as a "non-apology". "I'm sorry you're upset", is not being sorry that they failed to communicate, it's him passing the blame back to the offended party.
    they didn't fail to communicate though. that's the issue but he was kind enough to take blame when players took things the wrong way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    they didn't fail to communicate though. that's the issue but he was kind enough to take blame when players took things the wrong way.
    Tell me Musahidon, when did that communication come out? Oh, that's right, the patch notes. Communication of the design shift should have come well before the patch. Communication is not apologizing after. Communication is setting expectations before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    they didn't fail to communicate though.
    What? Between 2.1 when he originally made the offending statement, and 2.38, the only communication over Personal Housing we've really had is some banter over 850k and "Gardening might not be ready".

    Is that what constitutes successful communication these days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    they didn't fail to communicate though. that's the issue but he was kind enough to take blame when players took things the wrong way.
    Yeah no they totally failed with this much backlash? They failed; but why am I bothering you're the type who always has to be right.

    This is some crazy blind defending...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    Yeah no they totally failed with this much backlash? They failed; but why am I bothering you're the type who always has to be right.
    how much backlash? this 23 page thread? and the other 10 page thread? atma had a 100 plus page thead sure yea this is so much backlash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    how much backlash? this 23 page thread? and the other 10 page thread? atma had a 100 plus page thead sure yea this is so much backlash.
    Crazy. Blind. Defending.

    Way more than that and still going.. It's nice to know Yoshi can say practically anything and get defended for it regardless of the facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    how much backlash? this 23 page thread? and the other 10 page thread? atma had a 100 plus page thead sure yea this is so much backlash.
    Are you really comparing an uproar that is a week or so old to one which has been around for... Around five months?

    Not to mention the simple fact that, by it's very nature, Atma farming is something every player pretty much has to at least contemplate, while not everyone cares about housing. So no sh*t an Atma thread is going to end up with more traffic than a housing one.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 09-25-2014 at 05:35 AM.

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