Latest comment from Yoshida regarding Housing + Inventory space issue

[Musashidon]

Are you telling them that because you don't care about personal housing that their anticipation for this feature is invalid?

this is a joke of a argument someone doesn't care about personal housing because we like how it was implemented?

people built up their own expectations over the misinterpretation i give props to yoshi p for being the bigger person and showing that he makes mistakes and that he should word things better when he makes statements so people don't get the wrong idea.

it's better then the players saying no i am right he is wrong. noone perfect even you.

No, the price you pay for a personal house = the price you pay for an FC house. They are no cheaper. The statement from Yoshi was that they would cost less than FC housing. This is why that is called out as a "lie", because, without correcting that statement, that's how it looks to the player base.

once again misinterpretation it wil be cheaper then it was then. but hey what do i know i am just a blind white know right? seeing thats all anyone can say to someone who opposes them

white knight
uninterested

there is no real argument.

[Teryaani]

this is a joke of a argument someone doesn't care about personal housing because we like how it was implemented?

people built up their own expectations over the misinterpretation i give props to yoshi p for being the bigger person and showing that he makes mistakes and that he should word things better when he makes statements so people don't get the wrong idea.

it's better then the players saying no i am right he is wrong. noone perfect even you.

Either you're trolling, or you're a Square employee, or possibly both. Lots of people here have politely explained to you, very clearly, that there is no way this was a misinterpretation. Just stop.

once again misinterpretation it wil be cheaper then it was then. but hey what do i know i am just a blind white know right? seeing thats all anyone can say to someone who opposes them

white knight
uninterested

there is no real argument.

At no point have I accused you of white knighting. You're pulling that out in an effort to distract. You have no actual factual basis for your argument. It's been figuratively shredded and you can't respond outside of this nonsense.

[Musashidon]

Either you're trolling, or you're a Square employee, or possibly both. Lots of people here have politely explained to you, very clearly, that there is no way this was a misinterpretation. Just stop.

i am trolling? how? because i know players misinterpreted it and they won't accept they made a mistake and blame it all on yoshi p?

they haven't explained anything other then we are right he is wrong humans aren't perfect but i am.

[Tsuga]

this is a joke of a argument someone doesn't care about personal housing because we like how it was implemented?

The person that I responded to was trivializing housing in her last statement, hence my question.

people built up their own expectations over the misinterpretation i give props to yoshi p for being the bigger person and showing that he makes mistakes and that he should word things better when he makes statements so people don't get the wrong idea.

People built up expectations based on implications by Yoshida. You're right, there was little to go off of, but that is another issue with this situation. We were deliberately kept in the dark so that SE would have little accountability in the off chance that they had to implement their plan b - the current state of personal housing.

Yoshida did not admit to any mistake, he placed the burden on the players by suggesting that we misunderstood him when he explicitly stated that personal housing would be cheaper than grand company housing, not that personal housing would be cheaper relative to the current pricing of free company housing:

"While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable."

[Lillia]

"While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable."

"While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable." - Naoki Yoshida

The statement was not that personal houses would be cheaper due to depreciating value, it was that they would be "completely separate from free company" prices, and "far more affordable [than them]".

I did, don't worry. Click the blue button, two different posts. I read the Edit and replied around the same time as the second post though.

[Lillia]

@Tsuga

Ok, honey I was gonna go for personal housing IF it was any different from fc housing and was a little disappointed as well considering I worked up a few mil in a short time span and no? LIED is when you say it's 2 mil over and over then go oops i meant 20 mil at crunch time. They said it'd be CHEAPER cause people were worried about the prices THEN. Look at the date when they replied it'd be lower, then tell me about lying yeah?

Btw, it's not GC housing, it's FC housing and it is LOWER than it and honestly? all you're saying is that people assumed that it'd a certain way and I personally agree, I for one did assume it'd be separate too but that's the problem with assumptions they aren't Facts and aren't always right.

By the way.... where did I say "I don't care"? I suppose that's because you assumed that it's what my comment meant... cause like I just cleared up... and said before... I rose gil for itt and honestly the only reason I stuck with just a FC house was to not be a jerk like probably some people in game and so on and take 10 houses from players with no FCs or gardening rights so I don't share my garden profits with my FC or have to share garden space with them.

[Tsuga]

@Tsuga

I posted the exact quote from Yoshida in my last post. He explicitly states that Personal and Free Company houses would have separate pricing structures.

To you "not caring", it sounded like you were trivializing people's wants when you said that it was "just playing harvest moon in FF". My point was who are you to say that people should not be passionate about being lied to about this feature if they were looking forward to it?

[Lillia]

I posted the exact quote from Yoshida in my last post. He explicitly states that Personal and Free Company houses would have separate pricing structures.

To you "not caring", it sounded like you were trivializing people's wants when you said that it was "just playing harvest moon in FF". My point was who are you to say that people should not be passionate about being lied to about this feature if they were looking forward to it?

Uh, who are you to say if I wasn't? maybe I am just not as easily offended as someone clearly. Also... you just added that, I just read it and the prices are not separate, (big deal now FC houses don't need to pay 5 mil but 2. I see it as beneficial for BOTH parties.) and it is a lot lower as I explained to your fellow poster.

[MageBlack]

I posted the exact quote from Yoshida in my last post. He explicitly states that Personal and Free Company houses would have separate pricing structures.

To you "not caring", it sounded like you were trivializing people's wants when you said that it was "just playing harvest moon in FF". My point was who are you to say that people should not be passionate about being lied to about this feature if they were looking forward to it?

Can you tell me what difference price will make if all the plots are sold out? They could be 4k a plot but if there are none available it does not matter. To me, they should have been a separate zone even from the FC housing or something that was personally instanced for a personal house.

[Teryaani]

Sure they may have said we'd have separated wards, but honestly thats all they really "lied" about. They said it'd be cheaper than what housing was at the time and IT IS. Besides, housing is decorating, bird raising and MAYBE gardening if you have the time and patience.

No, the price you pay for a personal house = the price you pay for an FC house. They are no cheaper. The statement from Yoshi was that they would cost less than FC housing. This is why that is called out as a "lie", because, without correcting that statement, that's how it looks to the player base.

This is completely about communication.

Here's the thing, I suspect that there was a reason they didn't adjust player's expectations. I can't imagine that a company with the organization and size of square would just have that slip their minds. Whatever the reason they thought it was better to not let us know (I'm sure RMT had something to do with it, that or fear or lots of personal FCs) in advance, it was wrong. They miscalculated. To repeat my earlier statement, I at least hope they've learned something and will do better about this in the future.