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  1. #191
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    Teryaani's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeiShan View Post
    the fact is I joined 3 FCs, they used to be very active, now all of them are dead silent
    FCs fall apart all the time. That happens in every game

    the game is already dead,we don't want to play it anymore (my FCs aren't small, two of them had 100+memebers)
    You express how much you can't stand the game and yet, here you are. What difference does the size of the FC make? Almost none of the large "founding" FCs on Siren still exist. That's not because of players leaving the game, that's because of players leaving the FC.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucy View Post
    I'm a bit disappointed with how every patch they come up with a way to bribe players into playing old content. It's like they know how boring the old content is, so instead of making new content, they implement something that "forces" us to play the old content (Animus, Nexus, exclusive mats that have a 0.0001% droprate).

    I'm willing to put up with it, assuming it will stop with 3.0.
    It won't, so prepare yourself now.

    The developers have to find a way to keep players in queues so lower level players can get through the story mode duties, so they bribe us. I've got no problem with the bribery.

    As your quoted bit implies, you aren't being forced to do it. If you want the reward for it, you have to tolerate the unpleasant bits.

    edit: I won't argue that it's unpleasant. I'm only going to novus one relic and I'm wavering on whether or not to finish all class relics or not. Likely not.
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    Last edited by Teryaani; 09-25-2014 at 04:49 AM.

  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucy View Post
    I'm willing to put up with it, assuming it will stop with 3.0.
    Why would it stop with 3.0 though? If anything it will need to expand because of a perceived need for helping new players who can't just jump to 3.0 content.

    I mean let's look at the relic questline for instance

    Atmas - Encourage players to do FATEs, give new players help or give the players the impression that the open world in this game isn't just deserted even though it largely is
    Animus - Requires tons of dungeons/content that there is no logical reason to touch at level 50
    Novus - N/A, guess this was their way of helping out the Spiritbinding RMT bots
    Nexus - Most of the bonus light windows are low level primals or stuff like Turn 4, content that is obsolete for most level 50 players

    Of course what SE failed to realize, typical of their shortsightedness regarding most content that has been released is that rather than queue up for Duty Finder for things like Nexus players just make a party finder of 8 people who actually have Novus and just blaze through it.

    At this point patches are pretty much

    1) One to two new fights that are actually worth doing (Or not in the case of Ramuh EX on launch)
    2) Three new dungeons that nobody particularly seems to care about aside from vanity or expert roulette
    3) Non-descript Mechanic of the patch that will force you into old content
    4) Content that was promised turns out to not be what players were expecting or is locked behind either a massive gil wall or some overly convoluted system without any real need for it
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    Last edited by Prototype909; 09-25-2014 at 04:52 AM.

  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucy View Post
    I'm a bit disappointed with how every patch they come up with a way to bribe players into playing old content. It's like they know how boring the old content is, so instead of making new content, they implement something that "forces" us to play the old content (Animus, Nexus, exclusive mats that have a 0.0001% droprate).

    I'm willing to put up with it, assuming it will stop with 3.0.
    Since 3.0 will likely be an expansion pack that we'll be paying extra money for, it'd be awful silly if 3.0 didn't feature all new content.
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  4. 09-25-2014 05:32 AM
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    Didn't mean to double-post

  5. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    And until both investors and players deem ARR a failure, it'll continue on its path.
    Launch of the game was good but patches afterwords were bad.
    ARR was rushed out way too soon. Still have ton of bugs and lazy designs that were never fixed. 3.0 Will be the same.
    I have a feeling we will see less of it in 3.0 mainly because it isn't that hard of a task as it was launching the game.
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  6. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeiShan View Post
    I am sure it will, just like those wow clones,die in one or two years
    to me & my FC mates, the game is already dead,we don't want to play it anymore (my FCs aren't small, two of them had 100+memebers)

    XI/XIV1.23 are still alive in some people's heart
    Not like FFXIV: ARR is the MMO with the highest growth rate over the last year. Yep, totally dying in a year or two.
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  7. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Not like FFXIV: ARR is the MMO with the highest growth rate over the last year. Yep, totally dying in a year or two.
    I'll not say that the game is dying. But i want comment that sentence. The problem is not how fast a game grows, but how it grows. You can have 50 000 boring hallway dungeons, it'll still be boring dungeons. If devs don't come with new concepts (at least new for FFXIV) there the game will die.
    I'll close by quoting Coco Chanel: "fashion becomes out of date, style never"
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  8. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardayel View Post
    I'll not say that the game is dying. But i want comment that sentence. The problem is not how fast a game grows, but how it grows. You can have 50 000 boring hallway dungeons, it'll still be boring dungeons. If devs don't come with new concepts (at least new for FFXIV) there the game will die.
    I'll close by quoting Coco Chanel: "fashion becomes out of date, style never"
    Your entire post is based on a subjective matter. If I had a dollar everytime I saw people commenting on how and when MMOs would die, I would have retired a long time ago.
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    I for one support this. Even though they are lashing out content every few months, it's no where near the level of quality promised.
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    In my opinion, I think they are producing solid content at a fantastic pace. I love how each patch comes with a boat-lode of new story quests, which actually push the lore forward. That is just my opinion, though.
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    Player Tsuwu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    Maybe you shouldn't do only 1 fate a day.

    Let this sink in; there is a guy on Reddit who has 9 Animus weapons and it took him 3 months to get all 9.
    I believe, good sir, you have thereby been succinctly torched.

    I did -maybe- 300 total FATEs. Got my weapon.
    Even just occasionally popping in to FATEs on my down time with BLM, more than 1/2 to my second one.

    Not to say the game is flawless.
    But the people who enjoy the game are in the game. Enjoying it.
    Not rrraging on the forums because they want a different game.
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