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    NyarukoW's Avatar
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    Ai Hana
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    Or turn it into a solo instance ...
    This is an MMO, solo content just doesn't make sense. Why is it so hard for people to not speed run?

    It is easy to be nice to help the 1st-timers and it is fun too. Let them watch cutscenes and include them in the boss fights. This is not rocket science, it doesn't cost anything to do. Quite worrying about myth per minute. Worry more about if everyone is having fun and having a good time.
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    Player Alukah's Avatar
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    Alukah Bast
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    This is an MMO, solo content just doesn't make sense. Why is it so hard for people to not speed run?

    It is easy to be nice to help the 1st-timers and it is fun too. Let them watch cutscenes and include them in the boss fights. This is not rocket science, it doesn't cost anything to do. Quite worrying about myth per minute. Worry more about if everyone is having fun and having a good time.
    Don't pretend this is a perfect world, no matter how much you try you can't enforce your views on others, people won't have a change of heart just because you asked them to.

    People will speed run whether you like it or not, so if you have any solution that doesn't involve removing the roulette or forcing people to watch cutscenes (as they would break the system) feel free to point it out.
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    This is an MMO, solo content just doesn't make sense. Why is it so hard for people to not speed run?
    Because the content is boring and easy. Speedrunning either spices content up or makes us get over with it faster. (or it makes you wipe if the group can't handle it)

    Had a tank today in Dzemael that pulled ALL the trash up to the first boss AT ONCE. It was awesome, because I needed everything I got as a healer to keep up.
    He kept that pace and it just rocked.
    Usually I sleep through the 30-45 min dungeon. Today it was 16 minutes of adrenaline.
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    gamesmart's Avatar
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    Marcus Deston
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Had a tank today in Dzemael that pulled ALL the trash up to the first boss AT ONCE. It was awesome, because I needed everything I got as a healer to keep up.
    I take it you aren't familiar with DD first room xp farms? That's how the first pull is always done (in those parties at least) thanks to those stupidly powerful Crystal Veil buffs.

    On topic: I'm of the mind to wait with the newbies in a Castrum or Praetorium run - especially Prae, it's so easy to get lost in there the first time through - and people usually wait with or just plow through trash, either works. The main thing: let your party know what your intentions are so that they can go with you or voice their own opinion. When nobody speaks it usually ends up being all the veterans plowing through everything while the newbie gets stuck in cutscene after cutscene, but when someone does say something - whether it be a newbie or even a veteran speaking on behalf of the newbie like I sometimes do - people are usually more accommodating and are more likely to wait with. Then there's occasionally that person who's all "mememegottagofast," but there's really nothing we can do about those kinds of people.

    As for those people who say "you'll feel the same after a hundred runs" - I don't feel that way, even though I'm over twice the recommended iLvl for the place (if there is one), I still enjoy the instance, especially Praetorium (love the music). Though I guess I'm probably an exception.
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