Dungeons and ANGRY PEOPLE !

[Alipoprocks]

I think this thread is a perfect example of why it is detrimental to be able to level so quickly. I mean, I get that most MMO players have played lots of games by now and don't have the time or patience for leveling. But leveling should be a learning process. And I think that process is diminished by being able to level so quickly and effortlessly.

People are able to level so quickly that new players don't have time to even notice they are missing something and then get berated by other players for it.

For example, it would probably be a good idea for classes to stop advancing their level until they do the class/job quests. Because those quests, at least one of them anyway, forces you to level the cross class before you can advance your job quests.

[NyarukoW]

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People are able to level so quickly that new players don't have time to even notice they are missing something and then get berated by other players for it.

Leveling quick is not the problem. People being mean to other people that is the problem. Slowing down leveling won't help people learn group play any faster, actually it will make slower. And in the process if people were to berate others, they would be doing it there too. People behaving badly needs to be discouraged. The number of experienced player only increases over time and the choice/opportunity to be nice or mean to new player is going to be going to be in the hands of the experienced player 99% of the time, why is it so hard for the experienced player choose to be nice all the time?

[Mugiawara]

Leveling quick is not the problem. People being mean to other people that is the problem. Slowing down leveling won't help people learn group play any faster, actually it will make slower. And in the process if people were to berate others, they would be doing it there too. People behaving badly needs to be discouraged. The number of experienced player only increases over time and the choice/opportunity to be nice or mean to new player is going to be going to be in the hands of the experienced player 99% of the time, why is it so hard for the experienced player choose to be nice all the time?

Because some people suck, that's why. It's easy to be mean, especially thanks to DF.
To answer a question in a previous post, the reason why no one asks questions because you're either going to get kicked, or get the heat from it.
Don't ask, mess up, they'll know it's your first time and then they'll get pissy.
You're damned if you do, damned if you don't when it comes down to questions.
It's a shame too. People are so mean on this game some times people are scared to get the boot.
I try to help whenever I can. I'm also guilty of not asking things at times, because of said above.
I don't wanna hear it from people.

[Alipoprocks]

Leveling quick is not the problem. People being mean to other people that is the problem. Slowing down leveling won't help people learn group play any faster, actually it will make slower. And in the process if people were to berate others, they would be doing it there too. People behaving badly needs to be discouraged. The number of experienced player only increases over time and the choice/opportunity to be nice or mean to new player is going to be going to be in the hands of the experienced player 99% of the time, why is it so hard for the experienced player choose to be nice all the time?

I agree that people don't need to be mean. But the OP clearly didn't even know that he had inadequate gear and could use cross-class abilities. This game does a pretty good job pointing players in the right direction. Was just thinking that maybe there could be another way to clue new players about those things.

Plus, if leveling wasn't so quick, new players would have the time to see that they could upgrade/update their characters. It takes no time at all to get from 20 to 40. And at 20, you might be wearing level 16 gear and not even realize it at level 40. I have run into people that had that happen. Got all excited they could do a dungeon before realizing they could use a gear check. IDK. Whatever.

DON'T BE MEAN PEEPS!

[Vaer]

Was just thinking that maybe there could be another way to clue new players about those things.

An easy way is to actually have a working equipment compare for all stats on the tooltip instead of only for WDMG,Delay,AAspeed,DEF/MDEF.

[Alipoprocks]

An easy way is to actually have a working equipment compare for all stats on the tooltip instead of only for WDMG,Delay,AAspeed,DEF/MDEF.

^ Yes, yes.