Dungeons and ANGRY PEOPLE !

[Vaer]

Was just thinking that maybe there could be another way to clue new players about those things.

An easy way is to actually have a working equipment compare for all stats on the tooltip instead of only for WDMG,Delay,AAspeed,DEF/MDEF.

[Alipoprocks]

An easy way is to actually have a working equipment compare for all stats on the tooltip instead of only for WDMG,Delay,AAspeed,DEF/MDEF.

^ Yes, yes.

[Kuroyasha]

I dont have a problem with people being new, but I don't give a pass with being w/ just being non-observant. If it's the first 3 dungeons, then whatever may be new and havent bought accessories or got any type of aetherial drops. But if you almost level 50 and you dont know that accessories give you stats...come on now. At the very least it's a RPG; One should at least look into (via the numerous available ways whether in game or out) what kind of stats are provided for a slot at some point early on in the process so u at least are aware.

I don't rage against people unless im raged against. I dont give people advice much since usually it''s met with something akin to "i know my class (aka shut up)", "dont tell me how to play" etc. So i just enter, do the duty, exit most times. I can joke around, say hello nice to meet you, but i very rarely will stop in the middle of df to attempt a lecture on how to play a class and/or how to take advantage of the systems of FFXIV. Last time i remember trying was on a 45 blm who spammed f3 b3 (>.>) a while ago. That type of lecture is better given by someone on the same server, a friend, a nice fc mate, or a nice random player in shout. I honestly dont have the patience (or dont always care enough) to do that in a random DF, since preferably i would want to see the results of coaching someone on a class/job.

[Coatl]

Honestly, the only angry people I see in low level dungeons are the newbies themselves.

The last time I tried giving a new Tank advice he started a vote to kick me. But then I started a vote to kick him and he was gone. Since then I realized that people's intentions might not translate well into text, and might be misconstrued. What you may say might mean something else to another person.

Giving someone too much advice might be seen as being bossy, which is why I understand you not giving someone advice unless they ask. I have seen jerkish new players and jerkish veterns, but even though the ratio might be 1: 10, all the jerks combined still make up a small % of the playerbase.

[majorj0nny]

thanks for all the kind words of encouragement from those offering it and being helpful. To those that perfectly demonstrate my point, Im sorry Ive obviously failed miserably at this game .. I should be ashamed of myself and go jump off a cliff so not to effect your levelling skills with my disgusting lack of ringage.

last night I became a Bard, I filled out those jewellery slots and did a few more quests to get a few more higher quality clothing... Once I get a bit more cash Im going to invest in some better jewellery and/or Im going to pay more attention to those items when they come up in dungeons and quests as optional items.

oh and I've started levelling up my lancer too.

[Ignnis]

thanks for all the kind words of encouragement in this thread. to those that perfectly demonstrate my point, Im sorry Ive obviously failed miserably at this game .. I should be ashamed of myself and go jump off a cliff so not to effect your levelling skills with my disgusting lack of ringage.

Understandable mistakes if it\\'s your first time. I wouldn\\'t let it get you down (and ignore the arguments that detailed the thread). I heard you were on Cerberus, I am too. I don\\'t mind helping in dungeons etc, I can help as a tank, heals or dps. Don\\'t have a bard though so I can\\'t give you much help on that front.

I actually have a "willing to help" in my search info but no one has taken me up on that offer yet ._.

I wouldn\\'t worry about being shouted at, last night I got called a useless OT in ifrit hard so I queued again and showed those eruptions who\\'s boss....but maybe went a little too crazy with the stuns...

[Eye_Gore]

thanks for all the kind words of encouragement in this thread. to those that perfectly demonstrate my point, Im sorry Ive obviously failed miserably at this game .. I should be ashamed of myself and go jump off a cliff so not to effect your levelling skills with my disgusting lack of ringage.

Can I have your stuff before you go off the cliff?

It always amazes how fired up people can get over the game, especially towards new people who are trying but don't know all the ins and outs. But thats the wonderful thing of human nature, the diversity of attitudes, can't please em all. Oh well, I say stick to em, next time go into a dungeon wearing miner gear.

[Charisma]

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I dont know what else have been written in this thread, because im to "LAZY" too read all of it, but i just have to tell you you are talking complete bullshit.
The right side doesnt do shit before you are level 50, you could even do everything fine with the right side beeing empty, if you are average in playing your class.
I have done all the content with every role, and i barely update my right side(only buying accs at like lvl 20),before i hit lvl50, except when i got something from dungeons.
Healing Easy, Tanking without getting ridiculous damage, and mostly being the dps pulling out the most damage, maybe you want to learn more about the game, before telling others how to manage their characters.

Dont even bother looking at my character, because its not the one shown on this forum.

Dont get me wrong, i dont want to say accs arent worth updating, just that its not really necessary, to blow gil on insane priced low lvl accs.

[RubyScarlett]

Hey OP, I'm on Cerberus too and toss my name among the list of people that will help you. I'm happy to run and explain any dungeon or fight you need to do. I'm also happy to craft some accessories for you if you need them or answer any questions.

[Kaeda_Valentyne]

I had a similar experience when I started. I got to Bray as a CNJ not knowing anything about White Mage. That went over as well as you can imagine. I got told I was useless this run would be terrible and asked why I even bother to play if I'm so stupid.
All of that before we even left the blue circle. Need less to say I bailed on the run.
I didn't see the quest for WM as I assumed I would need to be level 35 to continue my CNJ quests. All of the quests so far had been every 5 levels.

Just some friendly advise think before you speak to someone like that. We are all real people. It takes no extra effort to be kind.
This kind of abuse can have a real effect on people.

Because of what was said to me and how I was treated, I'm afraid to jump into a DF.
Im level 44 and haven't even attempted Garuda NM.
I did Dzemael Darkhold yesterday no problem, "even got 2 player coms" but it doesn't change the fact that I still think every time I do join one that if I'm not perfect I might get cussed out again.
That being said I have met more kind and helpful people than not, but it only takes 1 bad apple to leave a lasting impression.