EX Raman cleared by a patty with no dps

[Vallug]

Wish I could use Warrior as a DPS in queues normally.

[Souljacker]

Wish I could use Warrior as a DPS in queues normally.

I don't understand why you can't. In fact, I wish they would separate the jobs and classes - warrior can stay as a tank and have marauder as a dps. At least then there would feel like a reason to take off the soul crystal.

[Rubieus]

I don't understand why you can't. In fact, I wish they would separate the jobs and classes - warrior can stay as a tank and have marauder as a dps. At least then there would feel like a reason to take off the soul crystal.

because then Mar would have to compete with the other DPS classes in the Role list.

[Souljacker]

because then Mar would have to compete with the other DPS classes in the Role list.

Simple solution. Lancer is a tank. Dragoon is a dps. Same with Pugilist and Monk. It would take some reworking, but I've long believed that this whole base class -> evolution idea is a terrible one. We still only have 9 total jobs. It just *looks* like more. Make the base classes stand on their own instead of just something that you bring out once in a while because you don't want to rework your main job's action bars. I have yet to find the motivation to take off my soul crystal on Black Mage - partly because of lore, but mostly because there's no need to go back. If Thaumatuge was more like XI's red mage, however...

And the only time I've taken my warrior crystal off is to go into PvP and troll people, not even because I think it's a serious job to bring in there.

The system needs another look.

[Rubieus]

Simple solution. Lancer is a tank. Dragoon is a dps. Same with Pugilist and Monk. It would take some reworking, but I've long believed that this whole base class -> evolution idea is a terrible one. We still only have 9 total jobs. It just *looks* like more. Make the base classes stand on their own instead of just something that you bring out once in a while because you don't want to rework your main job's action bars. I have yet to find the motivation to take off my soul crystal on Black Mage - partly because of lore, but mostly because there's no need to go back. If Thaumatuge was more like XI's red mage, however...

And the only time I've taken my warrior crystal off is to go into PvP and troll people, not even because I think it's a serious job to bring in there.

The system needs another look.

Lancer as a shield spear tank? is this a dream? i would enjoy that.

BOTH melee dps have the highest dps potential in the game. There was a fault in your reasoning.

My fault? heh. We shall not continue this banter, however I know a few mages who beg to differ with your conclusion.

[Adler]

Wish I could use Warrior as a DPS in queues normally.

join a dungeon in premade party with 2 tanks and let Warrior to DPS - was enough for me with 1 run to never ever try it again. Even with all strength accesories WAR will do much less damage than any DPS unless you get complete idiot dps of course.

[Shneibel]

Wish I could use Warrior as a DPS in queues normally.

dont think ppl care if you tank on 30 str and str jewel. WAR deal more dmg on Defiance so with 30 str and str jewel = better aggro & more dmg = profit

@OP: I wouldnt say the pt have no dps, WAR with 30 str and str jewel on ilvl 110 (assume the war use the ilvl 110 wep) , they have around 210 to 230 dps

[Gildarts]

dont think ppl care if you tank on 30 str and str jewel. WAR deal more dmg on Defiance so with 30 str and str jewel = better aggro & more dmg = profit

@OP: I wouldnt say the pt have no dps, WAR with 30 str and str jewel on ilvl 110 (assume the war use the ilvl 110 wep) , they have around 210 to 230 dps

210-230DPS as MT or ot ?

[Shneibel]

210-230DPS as MT or ot ?

as OT, sorry I should had been clear about this

[Gildarts]

as OT, sorry I should had been clear about this

aha

well i think as OT with 110 weapon and STR jewelry war hit 270-310 depends on fight maybe more, 200-220 as mt too with vit gear etc