EX Raman cleared by a patty with no dps

[Rubieus]

I don't understand why you can't. In fact, I wish they would separate the jobs and classes - warrior can stay as a tank and have marauder as a dps. At least then there would feel like a reason to take off the soul crystal.

because then Mar would have to compete with the other DPS classes in the Role list.

[Souljacker]

because then Mar would have to compete with the other DPS classes in the Role list.

Simple solution. Lancer is a tank. Dragoon is a dps. Same with Pugilist and Monk. It would take some reworking, but I've long believed that this whole base class -> evolution idea is a terrible one. We still only have 9 total jobs. It just *looks* like more. Make the base classes stand on their own instead of just something that you bring out once in a while because you don't want to rework your main job's action bars. I have yet to find the motivation to take off my soul crystal on Black Mage - partly because of lore, but mostly because there's no need to go back. If Thaumatuge was more like XI's red mage, however...

And the only time I've taken my warrior crystal off is to go into PvP and troll people, not even because I think it's a serious job to bring in there.

The system needs another look.

[Rubieus]

Simple solution. Lancer is a tank. Dragoon is a dps. Same with Pugilist and Monk. It would take some reworking, but I've long believed that this whole base class -> evolution idea is a terrible one. We still only have 9 total jobs. It just *looks* like more. Make the base classes stand on their own instead of just something that you bring out once in a while because you don't want to rework your main job's action bars. I have yet to find the motivation to take off my soul crystal on Black Mage - partly because of lore, but mostly because there's no need to go back. If Thaumatuge was more like XI's red mage, however...

And the only time I've taken my warrior crystal off is to go into PvP and troll people, not even because I think it's a serious job to bring in there.

The system needs another look.

Lancer as a shield spear tank? is this a dream? i would enjoy that.

BOTH melee dps have the highest dps potential in the game. There was a fault in your reasoning.

My fault? heh. We shall not continue this banter, however I know a few mages who beg to differ with your conclusion.