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  1. #21
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    Shneibel's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vallug View Post
    Wish I could use Warrior as a DPS in queues normally.
    dont think ppl care if you tank on 30 str and str jewel. WAR deal more dmg on Defiance so with 30 str and str jewel = better aggro & more dmg = profit

    @OP: I wouldnt say the pt have no dps, WAR with 30 str and str jewel on ilvl 110 (assume the war use the ilvl 110 wep) , they have around 210 to 230 dps
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    Last edited by Shneibel; 09-15-2014 at 07:12 PM.

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    Kokona Kona
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    No, Warrior' is really a WoW Blood Death Knight reborn with much stronger mechanics. I start to reserch on JP sites after I soloed 2nd boss of Hull reader island all by myself, then I found this.
    Soloable as PLD, too. Just use Stoneskin and you won't even take a single point of damage. It usually lasts until the next submerge; sometimes longer. The boss does pitiful damage. It's really nothing special that a WAR is able to solo it.

    People die from the stacking debuff (since you can't dispel it) and not getting into a bubble at the right time - both sources of damage can easily be avoided. That's about it. People die pretty often in Duty Finder groups though…

    I also killed that boss solo as SCH and WHM. I'm pretty sure that most DPS jobs using their regenerative abilities and dodging properly can do it, too. I have no first hand experience killing it solo as DPS though.
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  3. #23
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    Eight's Avatar
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    Eight Corova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    I think this kind of habit should be praised and commended. Players tackling content and solving it in new creative ways is a great ideas!! More players should do this kind of activities, challenging the content and try more job combinations that defy the normal form. No balance is needed if ever....
    People already figured out how to do this with SMN and unfortunately there was no praise and SE fixed it so people couldn't do it anymore. This will probably fixed as well they don't like it when you think outside the box.
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  4. #24
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    Aria Placida
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    No, Warrior' is really a WoW Blood Death Knight reborn with much stronger mechanics. I start to reserch on JP sites after I soloed 2nd boss of Hull reader island all by myself, then I found this.
    What?

    We're either thinking of different Warriors, or different Blood Death Knights, because I have no idea how you reached that conclusion.

    (To be clear, I quit WoW when they announced Cataclysm, so my experience with DKs was that they were all way OP.)
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  5. #25
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    Rozaria Eleanor
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    dont think ppl care if you tank on 30 str and str jewel. WAR deal more dmg on Defiance so with 30 str and str jewel = better aggro & more dmg = profit

    @OP: I wouldnt say the pt have no dps, WAR with 30 str and str jewel on ilvl 110 (assume the war use the ilvl 110 wep) , they have around 210 to 230 dps
    210-230DPS as MT or ot ?
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    Last edited by Gildarts; 09-15-2014 at 09:52 PM.

  6. #26
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    Ultima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubieus View Post
    Warrior and Paladin both have decent DPS when they arn't tanking. It may not be as massive as BLM or MNK but it gets the job done. I bet you that if you had the same group but as PLDs you could clear it just the same. Sword Oath with 30 str and, STR Gear.. yep.. totally works.


    EDit: Sorry, I forgot to say, your title is very misleading, as DPS = Damage per second and
    DD = Damage Dealing Classes. I knew what you meant, but inb4 flame grammar people?
    I think you mean it may not be as massive as DRG or MNK
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  7. #27
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri View Post
    I think you mean it may not be as massive as DRG or MNK
    I will go with what I said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    ガンブレード!吉田も欲しいです!
    うん、銃は夢があるし、ガンブレードもFFらしいですよね

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggnook24 View Post
    Never had Raman Patty before. Is it as good as the Ramen noodle shrimp kind?
    I read that also and thought Extra raman? haha

    cleared by a party no dps only with forks.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gildarts View Post
    210-230DPS as MT or ot ?
    as OT, sorry I should had been clear about this
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    Brine Gildchaff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eight View Post
    People already figured out how to do this with SMN and unfortunately there was no praise and SE fixed it so people couldn't do it anymore. This will probably fixed as well they don't like it when you think outside the box.
    Oh hey, this nonsense again. The Titan-egi solotank method was changed because it was taking advantage of an unintended oversight. (Shock Strike is a small AoE so the egi ignores it) It made the boss -ludicrously- easier since it allowed parties to form with either 2 heal/6 DPS or if needed 3 heal/5 DPS. It was making the easiest (and thus most-used) method not require tanks in any way, which would have led to tanks having a MUCH harder time getting into parties for Ramuh. THAT is why the fight was altered, not because "waaah Square doesn't like people thinking outside the booooox"

    As an example, people figured out how to do Mog EX without the need for tank swapping using Titan to hold hate on the King. This is -not- being nerfed because a) the tanks are still present too, b) it's not necessarily easier because healers now have three separate targets that are constantly taking damage and need to be protected, c) it's a really clever little trick that makes good use of the SMN class abilities (unlike solo-egi Ramuh EX which allows you to ignore the fight's mechanics via what is a borderline exploit because Titan-egi takes virtually no damage from ANY of Ramuh's attacks).
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    Last edited by Brine_Gildchaff; 09-15-2014 at 11:07 PM.

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