What am i doing wrong in the Ixal quests?

[Nyalia]

Actually... you can do it in 6 days if you have some spillover rep from the last tier. First of all, 50+3*35+2*29 isn't 207, it's 213. 213*6 = 1278. The most spillover you can get is 70, though you only really need 42 to do it in 6 days.

That said, let's say you did three quests of the previous tier each day and only two of the last tier four days out of the six, and the above two days out of the six. Chances are good that you won't get High Wind all six days (though it is possible). In this case, your progress will be: 70 + 207*4 + 213*2 = 1324.

Now, if you don't have any spillover rep, the above post applies - it'll take you 7 days no matter what.

So, yes, High Wind is especially difficult for no reason and probably shouldn't be. It is really not easily done at level 16, even if all DoH classes are level 16. But, you can avoid it. There is another quest with the same quality requirement, but I think that one disables cross-class skills instead, has an extremely low progress requirement, and you only need to make one of them.

One last note - for those who are struggling with the Ixali quests, especially High Wind, have you tried using crafter food? Even just NQ Frumenty (~10 gil at NPC vendors, +10 CP) could really help...

[Velox]

But its such a better idea to make a post complaining for no reason because "it's hard for me".

Unless people bring problems to light, they go uncorrected. Regardless of there being another way (which most people are doing instead), it doesn't address the flaws in the current system.

[Makado]

Unless people bring problems to light, they go uncorrected. Regardless of there being another way (which most people are doing instead), it doesn't address the flaws in the current system.

The entire last group of quests should be the same level of difficulty. The turn in items for that tier are level 41-50 items. So they should be that difficult.

[Gilthas]

The turn in items for that tier are level 41-50 items.

Funny thing about these turn-ins: at the last leg of the dailes, most of the time I prefer to hand-in 4 items of the previous tier than spend the mats for 3 crafts of the last tier.

[Tigerclaw]

Unless people bring problems to light, they go uncorrected. Regardless of there being another way (which most people are doing instead), it doesn't address the flaws in the current system.

High Wind isn't "difficult" per se, it is ridiculously beholden to the so-called "random" number generator. One of my mules averaged about 12% chance of HQ at completion, so by the time I got 3x HQ, I had 50+ NQ's in my inventory.

[Velox]

The entire last group of quests should be the same level of difficulty. The turn in items for that tier are level 41-50 items. So they should be that difficult.

I addressed this on the last page of this thread, the correlation doesn't hold true for 99% of the rest of the quests. The tier 1 quests that require level 40+ mats can still be done by a level 1 DoH class. In fact, other than "High Wind in Ishgard" a level 15 DoH can do every other quest in the ENTIRE Ixali tribe line with little to no difficulty (I've done it), even the other tier 6 quests. Logic states that if there is an outlier as noticeable as this single quest (High Wind), then there is something fundamentally wrong with the quest itself and not the entire tier.

High Wind isn't "difficult" per se, it is ridiculously beholden to the so-called "random" number generator. One of my mules averaged about 12% chance of HQ at completion, so by the time I got 3x HQ, I had 50+ NQ's in my inventory.

True, but having to rely on RNG for those Excellent conditions to pop up is a form of difficulty all in itself. This is especially true for people who play with extremely limited time constraints (1-2 hours) and end up wasting 75% of it waiting for RNG to bless them. Thus, you have artificial difficulty punishing a portion of the casual playerbase in a quest line designed to be casual content like all the other beast tribe quests. Like I said before though, it's not a huge deal because you can go back and do a lower tier quest in place at a minimal loss. My point is to, more or less, point out flaws in a system (working in game development myself, these things stick out like a sore thumb) and it becomes my goal to help get these issues addressed as quickly as possible so future players don't have to suffer the same way.

[O-Deka-K]

Actually... you can do it in 6 days if you have some spillover rep from the last tier. First of all, 50+3*35+2*29 isn't 207, it's 213. 213*6 = 1278. The most spillover you can get is 70, though you only really need 42 to do it in 6 days.

I stand corrected. 207 is the rep you get if you do 2 rank 6 quests and 3 rank 5 quests. I got it backwards.

[Tigerclaw]

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I didn't mean to sound like I was disagreeing with you, I think you are correct. I am pretty good at crafting, but my mule still had to waste a ton of time for that one daily. The reason why it is still a problem even though I have capped is that afaik you can only get Oaknots by doing the last 2 tiers of quests, meaning if Ishgard comes up, you have to accept it or lose an Oaknot for that day. It needs to be addressed.

[O-Deka-K]

I didn't mean to sound like I was disagreeing with you, I think you are correct. I am pretty good at crafting, but my mule still had to waste a ton of time for that one daily. The reason why it is still a problem even though I have capped is that afaik you can only get Oaknots by doing the last 2 tiers of quests, meaning if Ishgard comes up, you have to accept it or lose an Oaknot for that day. It needs to be addressed.

Hey Excalineighbor! I see you all the time at the market board in our ward.

You get 5 daily allowances per day, and each tier gives you 3 quests. You should still be able to get your 5 oaknots if you skip Highwind and grab a rank 5 quest.

[Mholito]

Hey Excalineighbor! I see you all the time at the market board in our ward.

You get 5 daily allowances per day, and each tier gives you 3 quests. You should still be able to get your 5 oaknots if you skip Highwind and grab a rank 5 quest.

Err...No! You get 6 allowances per day. You may be forgetting that "Deliverance" takes one allowance, but if you're only doing the quests for okanots, there is no reason to do that one.